Forcefields, why are they here?

[Rebelyell]

On a serious note, the force field given by the shield skill is in a way showing that he can block more proficiently than someone with lower shield skills, the only reason they have to resort to a force field is simply because the engine probably doesn't allow the character to zip his shield around like he would irl to block the stuff.

Just use your imagination bro.

thats not true because when you are geting shot to the face shield protect your face,
when you are geting shot to the legs shield protect your legs,
wen you are geting shot to the face and legs shield protect you face and legs



that give you forcefield, thats supernatural abilyty

[Tomas_of_Miles]

thats not true because when you are geting shot to the face shield protect your face,
when you are geting shot to the legs shield protect your legs,
wen you are geting shot to the face and legs shield protect you face and legs



that give you forcefield, thats supernatural abilyty

I think as discussed the shielding animation can't represent moving your shield to cover your face/legs etc etc. But that is what shield skill adds, the skill to move your shield more efficiently.

[BlindGuy]

i am listening

To text? Have fun listening. Most of us read, you fucking idiot. Its YOU I stab in the back and you block it, I went back to shooting you cause of your stupid lvl 35 shield build. Your the poorest blocker I ever seen at stupidly high level, AND you have 9 ping.

Your opinion is not needed, objective, analytical, or even realistic, you just type random shit that comes into your massively self obsessed brain.

As to horsefields (shield on horseback) they are insanely huge.

As bump lancing can be considered as figthing technique, well it is a bit silly that the lance gets through ponys head  , it requires some practice and timing as you have to aim your lance, so I don't really mind. What is pissing me off is getting bumped couched, I consider couching mechanic as... broken. Not whining, just sayin'.

It takes experience and practise to break the mechanics in many games to get an unfair and ridiculous advantage.

1-Yes lag, but fine. If we can't bumplance then you die when you get run over. Period.
2-a-So you want scimitars to have the blade so much ahead of the hit? No, how is that better.b-The animations in M&B are meant to replace what actually happens, not document it literally.
3-Not possible to alter a weapons grip in game in M&B. It would be nice though(I've thought about it)
4-Almost ALL weapons in CRPG weigh more that they do, so unless you want to make all players run a 3 mph, be quiet
5-Bucklers really don't block that way at all ingame, the only way that would happen is if an archer shot him in the same place several times. I've been hit by arrows that have come from right at front of me several times. Tell the archer who did that to not be an idiot.

1. Go ahead, thats fine, horses running ppl over kill them, thats fine.
2. You need to read before replying. If you havent understood, ask, dont fill in the blanks in your understanding from your imagination.
3. Ok...so halfswording, couching, using throwing in melee doesnt excist...my bad. Idiot
4. No, not really, you have no understanding of physics it seems.
5. You havent been shot by an arrow straight thru your shield. Not once. Ever. If you lokked round with low shield skill, you got shot. Dont lie to make a point, thats what children do.

...in my humble opinion...

AHAHAHAHA your HUMBLE anything just makes me think

the irony

Oh the bittersweet irony of a megalomaniac typing the words "my humble opinion" makes me smile to myself...gtfo Kinn, I've told you before, you argue by making things up and putting words in other's mouths, like women do when they are angry. The ONE time I didn't bother to troll you and had a serious conversation with you, you GTX teamspeak, AFTER YOU had followed ME there to try to have a go at me. Grow up little boy, the world doesn't revolve around you.

I think as discussed the shielding animation can't represent moving your shield to cover your face/legs etc etc. But that is what shield skill adds, the skill to move your shield more efficiently.

WHY should it? You can move your shield around...at least I can...If yours is stuck and you cant turn left or right, or move it up or down when blocking, you should probably reinstall your game or something mate.

[kinngrimm]

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... Its YOU I stab in the back and you block it, I went back to shooting you cause of your stupid lvl 35 shield build. Your the poorest blocker I ever seen at stupidly high level, AND you have 9 ping.

Your opinion is not needed, objective, analytical, or even realistic, you just type random shit that comes into your massively self obsessed brain.

well if i would be self obsessed i would be thinking this whole post is a Trollpost against me i am not even lvl 35 therefor i thought for a moment you were aiming at Leo with the insults you put on him, but now i am quite sure what this is all about a little love from my friend Templar_Guy/Yug/BlindGuy (Kafein it can't be Templar_Grey because in contrast he is pretty cool/relaxed when you talk to him).

..... I've told you before, you argue by making things up and putting words in other's mouths, like women do when they are angry. The ONE time I didn't bother to troll you and had a serious conversation with you, you GTX teamspeak, AFTER YOU had followed ME there to try to have a go at me. Grow up little boy, the world doesn't revolve around you.

First thing i remember (teamspeak name: Guy distinctive puperty voice) you trolling on Templar ts, without us speaking any word before that. Casimir and Alpha told me to ignore you and i did.
Second i saw someone trolling in ingame chat(Yug, i didn't make the connection there) and i stoped that dude by confronting him with his BS.
Third on the same day as in second, there was a strat battle where out of the blue some Templar_Guy first in ingame chat and also afterwards on teamspeak(Guy) was polluting the air with some BS out of the blue.
Fourth after this Strategus Battle i wanted to know what these personal attacks were all about and i went to Templar ts and when i entered and asked you plainly why you couldn't stop rantling and spitting insults so after i heard that for a while were interrupted several times when i tried to argue i just left because there is no conversation possible if it is only onesided constant insult, that isn't GTXing that is "not bothering"
Afterthat i got back into trying to ignore you and you kept on trolling for whatever reason which leads to me muting you on site ingame. This option sadly isn't here in the forum and sadly it is not permanet in game so i need to mute you there every time again. I just want a little peace and quite gaming without a douchbag giving me crap about his imaginary accusations and insults.

I know that i am not a good manual blocker, i never cared so much about it, because i have a shield and this kind of class which is formed by it, has a special weapon attribute called "shieldbreaker" even with shieldskill 10, there are weapons combined with builds which can destroy it in minimum 4 hits still. That it often doesn't is often due to the fact i kill the dudes faster with feintspams and surly a very specialised build, it is arguable if that has to do with personal skill or the abusive build i choose as there are so many 2h/polearm agi builds out there where you practicly havent got a chance  and then there are kickslashes and due to my short weapon and the need to get close to those who can still block even when kicking there are many who still can kill me, at least those who have either the personal or the build skills to do so. You on the otherhand haven't got both in my subjective experience and that drives you mad it seems.

@topic
how about making shields unbreakable or getting rid of shieldbreaker or introducing breaking points for weapons when they are used to block? Clearly a wooden stick can't forever hold against a claymore ...
Playability vs Realism

[Kafein]

5. You havent been shot by an arrow straight thru your shield. Not once. Ever. If you lokked round with low shield skill, you got shot. Dont lie to make a point, thats what children do.

In a logical sequence of events, I would ask your age now blindguy. Aleksander is right on that. Maybe you don't want to know, but it happens. I think I have more experience with a shield than you do, and as every possible logical fallacy works on the internet, that should be a compelling argument.

[Adamar]

Blindguy, there's no use discussing something that wont be changed. I've tried adressing the forcefield issue too, as have others, but we're a minority. The devs and 90% of the comunity want the game to remain Ilogical when there's no real need, and there's nothing to do about it. Maybe in a future title there will be no such nonsence as forcefields, but not here.
Stop wasting your energy arguing, they like it this way, it will stay.

[BlindGuy]

In a logical sequence of events, I would ask your age now blindguy. Aleksander is right on that. Maybe you don't want to know, but it happens. I think I have more experience with a shield than you do, and as every possible logical fallacy works on the internet, that should be a compelling argument.

Age: Doesnt matter. But: Older than you.

That you THINK you have more experience than me is laughable. NOONE who has not been the victim of untimely server mismatch, lag related issues or somesuch has taken an ARROW thru the shield. Remember, what you SEE is not what always has happend, there is no sync detection in warband, you might not always be seeing what is happening: example of this: be watching some youtube shit while you refresh forums and have some other apps running as map changes on a over 100 player server: sometimes you will see players fighting invisible opponents, horses flying in the air. These are engine issues in that there is no sync between clients and servers being forced. Another grief of mine is just that: There are VERY limited checks to ensure clients are using same detailing: example, the archers who are using the alwaystight crosshairs to pinpoint prior to shooting, and they are aiming at flourescent models. I hate this...it's cheating imho, should be bannable, but since there are no checks, anything goes I guess :C


@Kinn:

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LOL!  I state facts:  You are self obsessed, arrogant, have very limited skills in this game, yet you cry whenever the build YOU chose gets you killed, by facehugging, not knowing how to avoid being trampled by horses, jumping infront of teammates and crying when your agi build cant take various  hits from poleaxes. Untill YOU complain about problems YOU bring on yourself, I dont say SHIT to you: Why? Cause your a cunt. Proof positive: whenever you DO get butthurt and ask me WHY I hate you, I tell you the truth: I dont hate you, I pity you, I pity your lack of perspective, I pity that you had to go to such high levels to even your KDR, it really seems to matter to you, I pity that you had to use a pick to get spmmy enough to kill anything, I actively laugh aloud when I see you spawn with a sword cause you realise your feeding kills to enemies who are backpeddling. And WHAT do you always do when I inform you, quite politely most times, why you keep being crushed? You call me puperty voice: 1/ Puperty is not a word is english. 2/ Thats fine, I dont care, I am not insecure about the way I sound, I've been happy with myself for almost 30 years and you cant change that. You must be hurt by being told what a tool you are, else why ALWAYS resort to the same personal attack. You havent understood yet: NOTHING you could ever say would offend me, so stop being so fucking mad all the time you immature little german jerk.


Oh and btw: Bonus against shields. Not shieldbreaker, stop making things up, again I tell you, you must stop arguing like a woman if you ever want to be taken seriously. Now grow up.

EDIT: took out some silly spelling mistakes. Shoulda stayed in school tbh. 

[Aleskander]

1. Go ahead, thats fine, horses running ppl over kill them, thats fine.
haha lol, try to get the devs to do that, I dare you
2. You need to read before replying. If you havent understood, ask, dont fill in the blanks in your understanding from your imagination.
Pretty sure I understood, pay better attention in 7th grade english, because clearly you don't know how to make a sentence
3. Ok...so halfswording, couching, using throwing in melee doesnt excist...my bad. Idiot
Those are different premade animations, and none of them would fit what needs to be done
4. No, not really, you have no understanding of physics it seems.
So a 5 foot long piece of metal doesn't weigh more that a 2*4 hollow container of wood?
5. You havent been shot by an arrow straight thru your shield. Not once. Ever. If you lokked round with low shield skill, you got shot. Dont lie to make a point, thats what children do.
Actually I have, don't make me get evidence scrub
and lokked is not a word

Give most weapons crushthrough, remove force-fields, make it so only two-handed weapons can block, make people die when a horse hits them, nerf archery to hell, make crossbows reload faster and do more damage, make 70% of CRPG peseants due to the incredibly high cost of decent armor, make 50% of people use simple spears, have your character reset every time you die, buff heavy armor, add a stamina system that slows down CRPG even more.


There is your realism in CRPG, have fun with it

And look what we did to OP, not even trying

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