Buff the Buckler already

[Old_Sir_Agor]

Just tested, even with 6 shield skill a lance killed it with about 5 hits
Seriously, all it has going for it is that it is 0 slot and fast


Notice that this is in the game balance area and not the realism section

if yu want better shield go and take other shield, what the problem?

[SirProto]

Back when I had 7 shield my bucker lasted for absolutely ages against greatswords, 1hs, spears and if I remember correctly it could take about 5-6 blows from a great axe before it broke

but to be honest, if you see someone with an axe coming at you as a shielder its often much better to put your shield on your back for a 1 vs 1 with them

[Digglez]

doesnt make much sense that smallest shield requires the MOST skill requirement to use.

You should be able to use it (not well) if you want

just like you should be able to pick up and throw anything or shoot a bow, abit with terrible speed & accuracy

[Ninja_Khorin]

doesnt make much sense that smallest shield requires the MOST skill requirement to use.

Makes perfect sense to me.

[kinngrimm]

edit on topic:
LeoKing, used/uses steel buckler for a long time, he was top of scorebored. I don't think it had only to do with his shield skill or the shield himself though, but understanding game mechanics and that needs experience and also to read onto those topics here in the forum and most important spectate good players (those in your class to see how they handle different foes and those of other classes to see if they use similar patterns and then you can find a way to get to them).
Steel buckler 5-8 shield skill depending on weapon and what overall playstyle you are going for.

If you see axes or other shieldbreakers(make yourself familier with all of them how they look) and you have someone close by and there is at least another enemy without sheildbreaker it is a about foodwork so that you can position yourself that you engage the foe without sheildbreaker or are able to switch inbetween them. If it is only one enemy and you have a wingman, then let him be the front man and you try to get hits from the side. If you are the one facing the shieldbreaker you need to play high risk and very agressiv, meaning feintspam, outmanouver and spam when you think he would glance.

...which is something KingGylpe and Kinngrimm abuse on daily basis...

QQ their shields dont break in 4 strikes aboooze, they use forcefield, QQ i cant block shit so i need excuses to blame others because it just cant be me doing mistakes. There are plenty of players who get normal attacks which you often don't get, there are a lot of players who catch me feinting and kill me still. When i spectate you i often think to myself oh god why the fuck didn't he saw that coming, i think that with you more then with others i never lost a word till now about it. You fail on such a tremendous level so often, i see you regularly disengage out of fights leaving your teammates to die because you were hit one time. Sure you will then be the last on the battle field, but that doesn't make your team allways win.
Abuse my ass. I needed to invest fucking awful lots of points into a skill which basicly allows me only to have my shield not been broken for a little bit longer, when the fuck is your or other weapons are broken ... Leshma just give me more of the bs come at me.

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Btw how is it that any clan you join you are out of it only after a couple of days or a few weeks? Must be those clans, can't be you!

[Aleskander]

Back when I had 7 shield my bucker lasted for absolutely ages against greatswords, 1hs, spears and if I remember correctly it could take about 5-6 blows from a great axe before it broke

but to be honest, if you see someone with an axe coming at you as a shielder its often much better to put your shield on your back for a 1 vs 1 with them

Really?
I'm calling BS. And even if you are telling the truth, it shouldn't take 7 shield skill to get a shield that virtually can't block projectiles on par with others. I'm not complaining that a GLA can 3 shot my shield, I'm complaining that it can be 3 shot by a longsword.

if yu want better shield go and take other shield, what the problem?

Game BALANCE
If it is a aesthetic item it should not be the second most expensive shield

[Leshma]

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QQ their shields dont break in 4 strikes aboooze, they use forcefield, QQ i cant block shit so i need excuses to blame others because it just cant be me doing mistakes. There are plenty of players who get normal attacks which you often don't get, there are a lot of players who catch me feinting and kill me still. When i spectate you i often think to myself oh god why the fuck didn't he saw that coming, i think that with you more then with others i never lost a word till now about it. You fail on such a tremendous level so often, i see you regularly disengage out of fights leaving your teammates to die because you were hit one time. Sure you will then be the last on the battle field, but that doesn't make your team allways win.
Abuse my ass. I needed to invest fucking awful lots of points into a skill which basicly allows me only to have my shield not been broken for a little bit longer, when the fuck is your or other weapons are broken ... Leshma just give me more of the bs come at me.

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Btw how is it that any clan you join you are out of it only after a couple of days or a few weeks? Must be those clans, can't be you!

Kinngrimm, you're right about me failing a lot. I'm not the best player but I know how to get kills. People know that. People also know that you're a nice guy and total scrub who hides behind his shield since he started playing this game. I know that because I remember when you started playing, I was among first people that helped you with some things

[Vexus]

Same reason could be said for the weaboo stuff.

They are more expensive then what they should be because of their aesthetic just like the rich outfits in armour.

[kinngrimm]

Kinngrimm, you're right about me failing a lot. I'm not the best player but I know how to get kills. People know that. People also know that you're a nice guy and total scrub who hides behind his shield since he started playing this game. I know that because I remember when you started playing, I was among first people that helped you with some things

Leshma i am just tired, of people calling me abuuser, while i don't use cheats, bugs or unknown gamemechanics which not everyone could use for themselves. STF 15 shieldskill builds had been out there, indistructable shields, i dont even have that and never will, i just go for durability so i get a chance to strike and yes i am stubborn about my shield, majorly because it takes so much time to get anywhere here in this game and i never could be arsed to learn manual blocking in that way yes i am a nuub and i intend to keep it that way. The nice thing about different classes is, noone has to do it in a fixed way. And i challenge anyone to use the exact build i posted in "solid builds" thread to use it and get not only my scores but as many people can vouch for also be there when a teammate needs help. I go out on the flank to go get back to the center for several reason.

One of my first suggestions i have done, was that we should be able to respec at any given time, so that you would be able to basicly play any class at any time. You wouldn't loose stuff to STF or alts, you would be able to fill out roles in strategus as needed. You would need to make more genereations more often for more weapons  if you want to loom stuff for different classes therefor would go later for max level. You would gain soo much flexibility,
but it is not heared by our god.
So i am stuck with a leveling system which binds me to the one class i like best and want to get better in.

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The best leveling and character building system i have encountered so far was that of Guildwas, i managed to burn arround 4200 hours in that game, had a guild with 25 active players we were a mostly pure PVE guild with but lots of fun in the later not so serrious PvP areas from the first addon.
The System allowed me to freely combine at any given time any attribute and skillpoints you had at any level your had at the time. Later they included a build load/save function which then made me collect all the builds of all my 10 characters which in the end i had a collection of arround 140 builds. For any type of situation, any type of foes and any type of team combos needed i had my build for it i loved to have that collection and i was able to tell you all about the the skills in those builds, i followed any patch and how those skills were changed and i changed first hand my builds acordingly if needed.

If not for the option to flexible recombine my attributes and skills i would have been out of the game after perhaps 500-700 hours if not for the loading of builts i would have been perhaps out of that game after 1400 hours. Giving the player the abilities to complettly customize his char over and over again is a huge turn on

[Angantyr]

Besides speed and massive resistance one of the buckler's greatest strengths is its low weight.

[kinngrimm]

Besides speed and massive resistance one of the buckler's greatest strengths is its low weight.

true and that combined with high ath and less weight in other gear, makes you unbelievable fast in movement and you can do crazy stuff that way

[Aleskander]

Same reason could be said for the weaboo stuff.

They are more expensive then what they should be because of their aesthetic just like the rich outfits in armour.

The weaboo stuff is decent at least

Maybe it's because of all the strength builds on the NA servers that make it seem to be paper. Only thing I can think of. The large resistance may look good on paper but in game it is actually quite shitty

[SirProto]

Really?
I'm calling BS. And even if you are telling the truth, it shouldn't take 7 shield skill to get a shield that virtually can't block projectiles on par with others. I'm not complaining that a GLA can 3 shot my shield, I'm complaining that it can be 3 shot by a longsword.

I shit you not!

The weaboo stuff is decent at least

Maybe it's because of all the strength builds on the NA servers that make it seem to be paper. Only thing I can think of. The large resistance may look good on paper but in game it is actually quite shitty

And this may be why, I play on EU, there's far more agility builds here which do a ton less damage to the shield

[Vibe]

Did you see the force field on that thing? Fucking ridiculous. Small shields shouldn't have this much coverage.

[Brrrak]

The weaboo stuff is decent at least

Maybe it's because of all the strength builds on the NA servers that make it seem to be paper. Only thing I can think of. The large resistance may look good on paper but in game it is actually quite shitty

I dunno, I can rely on a buckler on my 1h/2h alt with only about 5 shield for a good while.  It's great fun using it with a long dagger.