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Buff the Buckler already
« on: April 18, 2012, 04:49:50 pm »
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Seriously, for the second most expensive shield, it sucks

It is the shield with the least coverage
It is somehow not the fastest shield
It can be one-shotted by a poleaxe



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Re: Buff the Buckler already
« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2012, 05:02:11 pm »
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-0 slot
-can take 100 hits by not shield breaker weapons
-fast
-light weight
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Re: Buff the Buckler already
« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2012, 05:28:00 pm »
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-0 slot
-can take 100 hits by not shield breaker weapons
-fast
-light weight

It's not that much faster than other shields
Where did you get the statistics that it can be hit by even non shield breaker weapons and not break?

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Re: Buff the Buckler already
« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2012, 05:29:19 pm »
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Buckler is especially good with high shield skill. It is also supposed to be as fast as manual block. Basically it is a manual block with omni-block, not a shield.
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Re: Buff the Buckler already
« Reply #4 on: April 18, 2012, 05:29:53 pm »
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all the metal shields have low HP but good resistance, which means it can't take lots of axe hits but it can take lots of sword hits.
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Re: Buff the Buckler already
« Reply #5 on: April 18, 2012, 05:36:15 pm »
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Well. I made a Archer Build with :
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And it died after 3-5 hits of a non shield breakable wepaon.

So it kinda sucks. But I liked it cus it's fast.

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Re: Buff the Buckler already
« Reply #6 on: April 18, 2012, 05:38:41 pm »
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You need high shield skill (5-8) to make it almost unbreakable to swords
« Last Edit: April 18, 2012, 05:39:44 pm by Herkkutatti »
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Re: Buff the Buckler already
« Reply #7 on: April 18, 2012, 05:40:19 pm »
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Yeh but sometimes I used another shield (Elite cav shield) and it didn't broke as fast as the buckler.

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Re: Buff the Buckler already
« Reply #8 on: April 18, 2012, 05:43:31 pm »
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elite cav shield has over 100 moar hit points. buckler sucks but no need to nerf or buff it, its ok that the stats are pretty shitty because its 0 slot shield.
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Re: Buff the Buckler already
« Reply #9 on: April 18, 2012, 06:45:12 pm »
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Shields are okay up to 6 shield skill, after that they become OP (which is something KingGylpe and Kinngrimm abuse on daily basis). If you want to see true power of your buckler make 12/24 shielder using steel pick. If you get to 33 you can have 5 PS or even more shield skill and athletics.

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Re: Buff the Buckler already
« Reply #10 on: April 18, 2012, 07:43:22 pm »
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Bucklers were designed to be used for fencing swordfights with people using light swords, not for medieval  battlefields where guys are running around in plate armour and using linebreaking weapons like heavy axes and 2h swords where heavy  shields were effective.

They were only added to the game as a novelty, so people could RP some kind of italian duelist if they wanted, you can't expect them to be balanced to par with a huscarl shield or norman kite shield.

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Re: Buff the Buckler already
« Reply #11 on: April 18, 2012, 07:51:31 pm »
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it is good as it is, for 0 sloted shield.
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Re: Buff the Buckler already
« Reply #12 on: April 18, 2012, 10:51:20 pm »
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Buckler is especially good with high shield skill. It is also supposed to be as fast as manual block. Basically it is a manual block with omni-block, not a shield.

Naa, with manual blocking you can deflect hits from the rear and the sides. This does not work with a buckler.

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Re: Buff the Buckler already
« Reply #13 on: April 18, 2012, 10:55:22 pm »
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Just tested, even with 6 shield skill a lance killed it with about 5 hits
Seriously, all it has going for it is that it is 0 slot and fast


Bucklers were designed to be used for fencing swordfights with people using light swords, not for medieval  battlefields where guys are running around in plate armour and using linebreaking weapons like heavy axes and 2h swords where heavy  shields were effective.

They were only added to the game as a novelty, so people could RP some kind of italian duelist if they wanted, you can't expect them to be balanced to par with a huscarl shield or norman kite shield.

Notice that this is in the game balance area and not the realism section

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Re: Buff the Buckler already
« Reply #14 on: April 18, 2012, 11:13:36 pm »
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It's a dueling shield it's not meant to last a war, game balance or not.
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