BAN request for Bandit_Vagabond

[Chagan_Arslan]

its the end of the round 8 vs 2 gk's one on horse one on foot, situation seems kind of hopeless so the on horse is giving the horse to the one on foot Hentzi the horse archer with almost full quiver

it turns 8vs1 soon and Hentzi starts to shoot them its 2:30 to the end, and rage on the chat begins in the next 30 seconds Hentzi kills 3 guys, while on chat he is called delayer and stuff like he cant win

finally the Bandit_Vagabond is making a poll to kick him, after he saw it he dismounted to avoid kick

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now i think that if the poll wasnt there he might win as he is good horse archer with skills to do it

also i wouldnt make this kick request if couple of maps later i didnt see how bandits went ankwardly silent to the fact that the last guy in their team Renay, was hiding with a crossbow on a side of the hill, and eventually made a draw as nobody could find him except for one guy that got killed by him

fun fact: Renay was also saying Hentzi was delaying just to pull some shit like he did later

[IR_Kuoin]

Making a poll to kick a guy because you are afraid of losing your multi is kinda weak. But it often happens when a HA is left. But chagan I think that Vagabond was not the only one ready to press the poll button. Give the guy a warning 

[Renay]

Okay, I was there both times. When Hentzi was the last one left, he was a Horse Archer and he kept riding away, meaning none of the meleers left alive had a chance to kill him. That is delaying in my eyes.

To the other situation. I was not hiding. I was on the mountain during the whole round and whenever somebody came to kill me, they died instead.
I was defending myself against my attackers. That is not delaying as far as I know. At some point I was the last one left and I went behind a tree to reload my crossbow, then everybody started writing I shouldn't hide and I should jump and kill myself. I don't think it's against the rules to not suicide as the last guy so they can keep their multiplier. If they wanna keep their multi, they have to work for it, meaning they have to kill me, but apparrently they were unable to, so why should I suicide?

And I have no problems with Hentzi whatsoever, I actually like that horse my old friend. I just thought it was stupid to keep riding away and making others wait.

Edit: Also, they did see me, I jumped around and whistled so they can see me.

[Garrus]

Okay, I was there both times. When Hentzi was the last one left, he was a Horse Archer and he kept riding away, meaning none of the meleers left alive had a chance to kill him. That is delaying in my eyes.

he had arrows, he was shooting...
ahh these ninjas.. always these ninjas :-/
what should a horsearcher do ?

[Renay]

he had arrows, he was shooting...
ahh these ninjas.. always these ninjas :-/
what should a horsearcher do ?

So basically you are saying, if an archer on foot is left, he can keep on running away and shoot when there is the opportunity.

[Kerrigan]

Okay, I was there both times. When Hentzi was the last one left, he was a Horse Archer and he kept riding away, meaning none of the meleers left alive had a chance to kill him. That is delaying in my eyes.

To the other situation. I was not hiding. I was on the mountain during the whole round and whenever somebody came to kill me, they died instead.
I was defending myself against my attackers. That is not delaying as far as I know. At some point I was the last one left and I went behind a tree to reload my crossbow, then everybody started writing I shouldn't hide and I should jump and kill myself. I don't think it's against the rules to not suicide as the last guy so they can keep their multiplier. If they wanna keep their multi, they have to work for it, meaning they have to kill me, but apparrently they were unable to, so why should I suicide?

And I have no problems with Hentzi whatsoever, I actually like that horse my old friend. I just thought it was stupid to keep riding away and making others wait.

Edit: Also, they did see me, I jumped around and whistled so they can see me.

You were doing nothing on that hill. Time was clearly running out and you just waited there untill time ran out, causing a draw. You were outnumbered by far aswell. If this is not delaying then I don't know what is.

Anyway the point is that when Hentzi clearly had a chance fighting these last 5 guys with plenty of time left, this Vagabond polls just because he is scared to lose and because Hentzi is GK. And then the next map you actually delay and cause a draw while Vagabond is in your team and he doesn't make a poll. I'm sick and tired of this anti GK shit, especially by these Bandits. I believe us GK's have tolerated a lot of their douchebaggery but enough is enough. They used to try and be trolls but that time has long gone. They have turned themselves into ordinary douchebags. And nobody likes a douchebag. A shame because I think Gnjus is a nice and smart guy. He should tighten his leash on these idiots.

Regards,

Kerrigan

[Molly]

I was spectating Renay and he was shooting till the end and even 30 secs before the round was ending, he was killing someone with this sword!

[Garrus]

So basically you are saying, if an archer on foot is left, he can keep on running away and shoot when there is the opportunity.

yes. but not passively standing on a roof. he must react with movement yes

[Renay]

what molly said.

[Leshma]

Hentzi never delays and never caused a draw. He just dismounts and sometimes fight or wait for enemy to slay him. There are some HAs that like to delay but those certainly aren't members of GK clan.

[IR_Kuoin]

Hentzi never delays and never caused a draw. He just dismounts and sometimes fight or wait for enemy to slay him. There are some HAs that like to delay but those certainly aren't members of GK clan.

EHM! NuuK ...

[Leshma]

You are responsible for Nuuk's behavior just like he is responsible for yours. Don't blame GKs for that...

[Ulruk_Van_Escarla]

The rule about delaying is when the person who is last man is running away from an enemy without trying to engage in any kind of combat. 1. Hentzi still had enough arrows to be able to take the remaining players down. 2. Vagabond was alive at the time and decided that he couldn't do anything about Hentzi after seeing some of his fellow teammates that I will point out in full plate armour,and Hentzi had a strong chance of winning the round. 3. This is a bankable offence as it can be classed as abusing the poll system.

[Garrus]

ill take my archer alt, be quite passive until the end of an round and then run away with my 10 agility, shoot one arrow and then run away again. and that will continue til an draw, cuz i aint stopping. sounds fair?

yes, running and shooting sounds fair. in my experience, which is probably far away from yours,
many archers always do that, when I try to kill them. just running and shooting.
though, some of them stops and grabs a melee weapon, respect for them.

The game becomes hopeless when it remains last horse/archer... not specialy a GK
Once you see the game playing "cat vs mouse with arrows" on those few longs minutes, it would be difficult to dont press 1 on the keyboard...

I also pressed 1 against Hentzi, of course, I always press 1, no hard feelings.
we are not talking about pressing 1 or 2,
but about initiating a kick/ban poll against an other player.
I officially liberate your soul.

[Ronin]

Do you expect an archer with 0 power strike to fight with a melee weapon? That would be same as expecting a twohander with 0 power draw and 1 archery wpf to shoot arrows.
Also keep in mind that arrows are not in infinite amount, just 17 per stack or so.

I think whomever opened that poll deserves a ban for poll abuse. It doesn't matter if he did not do the same for his teammates/clanmates. The former reason should be solely enough.