"Final" Build for Level 33

[WarLord]

Hey boys and girls,

I´m thinking of not retiring anymore and I am planning my final build for level 33.


Those 2 are in my mind:

Level 33 (35 569 612 xp)

    Strength: 24
    Agility: 18
    Hit points: 71

    Skills to attributes: 8

    Ironflesh: 6
    Power Strike: 8
    Shield: 0
    Athletics: 6
    Riding: 0
    Horse Archery: 0
    Power Draw: 0
    Power Throw: 0
    Weapon Master: 6

    One Handed: 1
    Two Handed: 1
    Polearm: 160
    Archery: 1
    Crossbow: 1
    Throwing: 1

and:

Level 33 (35 569 612 xp)

    Strength: 21
    Agility: 21
    Hit points: 66

    Skills to attributes: 8

    Ironflesh: 5
    Power Strike: 7
    Shield: 0
    Athletics: 7
    Riding: 0
    Horse Archery: 0
    Power Draw: 0
    Power Throw: 0
    Weapon Master: 7

    One Handed: 1
    Two Handed: 1
    Polearm: 168
    Archery: 1
    Crossbow: 1
    Throwing: 1


Most of you probably know I´m a long spear-abuser and ashwoodpike-fagn, but I also use other 4-direction polearms aswell.

I played a few Gens as 24/15 spearman and I found 15 agi and 140ish wpf enough, so 18 agi and 160 wpf at level 33 sound more than enough. And 6 instead of 5 Iron-Flesh are also tempting, 5 HP more in total with the 24/18 build sounds so good.

Most people on the other hand already suggested a the "pro-balanced" 21/21 build, because they all think agi is more important.

But, is 8 WPF more on level 33 really worth it?

Just tell me your thoughts.

[Vibe]

160-168 WPF has pretty much no effect. I'd go with 24/18, but it's up to you to decide whether you want to be a bit faster or a bit stronger.

[B3RS3RK]

The WPF are probably not worth it, but the athletics could easily be decisive in a lot of fights.Especially as longspear aboozer

[Kafein]

The 21/21 build will lets you wear more armor without turning you into a turtle in case you end up being too rich.

But for a polearm char I'd personally go 24/18 or even rather 27/15 if you still could, because especially with a pike/long spear, the only thing you care about is the amount of damage you do.

[Vibe]

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[Kafein]

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[Gurnisson]

Yep, get that one. Don't listen to kafein about long spear using, you need at least 6 ath to properly pike down enemies at every opportunity and being able to get behind your teammates to be protected

[Malaclypse]

If I were going for a pure 33 polearm user, the build I would use is:

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21 Strength
24 Agility

60 Hit points
14 skills converted

2 Ironflesh
7 Powerstrike
8 Athletics
3 WM

137ish polearm

Or maybe even shoot for 5 ironflesh, or 2 ironflesh 3 shield for utility. I don't notice much different between 111 prof and 150 in a single weapon-type build, though having more proficiency would allow one to wear heavier armor and suffer the reduction to prof from it. With polearms in particular I'd favor more Athletics more than Power Strike, though a build with this many conversions allows for a high number in both.

Out of the two you posted, I'd go with the 21/21 one with just 5 WM and 7 IF.

[Kafein]

Yep, get that one. Don't listen to kafein about long spear using, you need at least 6 ath to properly pike down enemies at every opportunity and being able to get behind your teammates to be protected

Well it's not exactly the same thing but it works too. With 15 agi you have to be more careful and follow your teammates closely. You also really need a backup weapon in case you can't follow your team. But with 27 str there's pretty much no one you won't 2 or 3-shot, and killing people with a 0wpf 1h isn't that hard when you hit like a truck.

A high STR pikeman is more like a anti-inf char with limited anti-cav action, while an AGI pikeman is essentially a cav repellant that sometimes acts as support in melee fights. Well that's how I play them.

Finally, high STR lets you use the fearsome Long Maul more effectively. That's a huge plus on city maps and siege.

[Gurnisson]

A high STR pikeman is more like a anti-inf char with limited anti-cav action, while an AGI pikeman is essentially a cav repellant that sometimes acts as support in melee fights.

And a balanced build gives you both. I've used a +3 pike quite a bit and using it with low agi would be suicide (you can't trust crpg teammates most of the time). I time the strikes to hit with full speed bonus to the head which is one-hits with 7 ps anyway. With 6-7 ath you can win 1 vs 1 with a pike using lolstabbing, kick-stabs to the face and jump-stabs. Good luck winning 1 vs. 1 with 4 agi, or even better, good luck running to another group of teammates. I'm telling this by experience btw, I've had 27/12, 30/9, 21/18 and I'm now 24/12. The 21/18 is definitely the best for piking out of those. An agi pikeman is to weak and is pretty much a gimmick character, while the strength one relies too much on teammates (which doesn't work in crpg )

[Angantyr]

I often wonder the same myself for when I (probably) stop retiring in a gen or two, 24-18 or 21-21, both are good and the differences are marginal, a bit more speed or a bit more hp and damage. It's a tough one.

[Materia]

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[Torben]

was very happy with my 24/18 build.  its worth it.

[Elmuri]

I'm going fo 15/27 at lvl 33

Strength: 15
    Agility: 27
    Hit points:

    Skills to attributes: 8

    Ironflesh: ?
    Power Strike: 5
    Shield: 0
    Athletics: 9
    Riding: 0
    Horse Archery: 0
    Power Draw: 0
    Power Throw: 0
    Weapon Master: ?

    One Handed: 1
    Two Handed: 1
    Polearm: 160
    Archery: 1
    Crossbow: 1
    Throwing: 1

I'm still wondering how should I use final 2 skill points. Atm I have 3 if and 7 wm. Is there any use to put more wm or should I just go for 5 if?

(sry for using your thread)

[Atze1]

Level 33 (35 569 612 xp)

    Strength: 27
    Agility: 15
    Hit points: 76

    Skills to attributes: 8

    Ironflesh: 7
    Power Strike: 9
    Shield: 0
    Athletics: 5
    Riding: 0
    Horse Archery: 0
    Power Draw: 0
    Power Throw: 0
    Weapon Master: 5

    One Handed: 1
    Two Handed: 1
    Polearm: 152
    Archery: 1
    Crossbow: 1
    Throwing: 1

5 WM / 5 ATH are enough.  Im really fast with my build (24/15) also using heavy armor ( Weight: 22.5 kg)

--> at lvl 33 youre a fast tank ( with the right armor + IF ) and a good dmg dealer ( 9 PS )