A stab only 1h sword (rapier)?

[Christo]

I had an idea today: We have polearms that have limited attack directions. Why don't we spice up 1h gameplay a bit, and add a weapon that can only stab? Should have the obvious stab-only as a disadvantage, but (okay, I know this isn't realistic, but it would be interesting to have) it should have increased pierce damage, or speed, or something like that.

I think it would bring some diversity into the 1h weapon arsenal, alternates are always nice.

What do you say?

[Tears of Destiny]

Something like this may appear in the pirate patch coming out.

[Diomedes]

Something like this may appear in the pirate patch coming out.

I'm beginning to think that patch was designed just so people could write "pirate patch" with a straight face. 


Also, if you get the blood mod, Warband becomes rated ARRRRRRRRRRR

[Tears of Destiny]

I'm beginning to think that patch was designed just so people could write "pirate patch" with a straight face. 


Also, if you get the blood mod, Warband becomes rated ARRRRRRRRRRR

Oh I am far too easily amused, hehehe

[Heroin]

Oh I am far too easily amused, hehehe

Don't feel bad, me too. lol 

While I back the idea of a rapier-style weapon in the mod, I'm not sure what it's practical application would be if it were thrust only. While it is true that rapiers were designed with the thrust in mind, most did have an edge, and could cut as well. I might be wrong here, but I think the only "rapiers" that didn't have an edge were the ones designed for sport or practice.

EDIT: So basically what I'm saying is, "Sure, make rapiers with some decent length, and respectable thrust damage. But give them some trivial slash damage too."

[Vexus]

Could always have swings in low damage blunt with high damage thrust in pierce if possible.

[Kalam]

Could always have swings in low damage blunt with high damage thrust in pierce if possible.

[Maira]

Could always have swings in low damage blunt with high damage thrust in pierce if possible.

I'm pretty sure it's possible, just like the Goedendag, swing damage 25 blunt / thrust damage 22 pierce

Calradian Fencing Guild ftw! 

[Heroin]

Could always have swings in low damage blunt with high damage thrust in pierce if possible.

Yeah, I considered this, too. Would be fine, imo. It would be cool if it was a longer, one-handed style weapon with penalty with shield.

[Diomedes]

Perhaps it should mark a new weapon type.  A long pointy sword that can only stab when used with a shield but which can dual very effectively without a shield.  It's hard for me to articulate this normally so:

- a long and very pointy sword with low blunt/stun damage on the swing
- can only stab when used with a shield
- fairly fast (99/100?)
- fancy looking
- basically a weapon for very skilled blockers which: (1) isn't as damaging as a 2h (2) nor as good with a shield as 1h (3) isn't as long range as a hoplite's stabbing spear when used with a shield

Note: To make this fair it would need some tight balancing and probably a nerf on the weapon change/shield drawing speed



Ideas?  Impossible?  Silly?  It's late and I'm procrastinating writing an essay right now 

[Heroin]

Perhaps it should mark a new weapon type.  A long pointy sword that can only stab when used with a shield but which can dual very effectively without a shield.  It's hard for me to articulate this normally so:

- a long and very pointy sword with low blunt/stun damage on the swing
- can only stab when used with a shield
- fairly fast (99/100?)
- fancy looking
- basically a weapon for very skilled blockers which: (1) isn't as damaging as a 2h (2) nor as good with a shield as 1h (3) isn't as long range as a hoplite's stabbing spear when used with a shield

Note: To make this fair it would need some tight balancing and probably an nerf on the weapon change/shield drawing speed



Ideas?  Impossible?  Silly?  It's late and I'm procrastinating writing an essay right now 

I like those ideas.

[Ninja_Khorin]

I'd love a rapier, I'd have to make a Zorro alt. In any case, I'd prefer if it could only chamber, but I suppose that's too much to ask. Would be badass, though.

[Grey]

Could always have swings in low damage blunt with high damage thrust in pierce if possible.

Was thinking this. But its gonna need to be like:

Range 99
Speed 102 (95 with shield, wants to be discouraging to use shield with this, unlike STUPID SIDE SWORD)
Swing 10 blunt dmg
Stab 35 pierce dmg
THIS WEAPON CANNOT BE USED TO BLOCK.

And much as I hate that tag, cause my chambering is definitly my weakest combat aspect, this would a weapon for very proficient duelists, a weapon for settling petty arguments on server by embarrasing your opponent, all things the daggers do now, and also mutual consent duels with this would be very intense, I can see up to tripchambering with these things.

Pirate patch is being delayed by some virus in the code, thought to be scurvy XD

[Dravic]

Silly, sword with blunt dmg in this game... I know that you like to be "realistic", but blunt dmg > cut.

So I would like to have something like that:


weight 1.25
requirement 6
spd rtng 98
weapon length 100 (more or less, to discuss!)
swing damage 20, cut
thrust damage 31 pierce
Gen1=  99spd 21cut 33pierce
Gen2=  100spd 22cut 34pierce
Gen3= 101spd 23cut 35pierce
Penalty with shield

Should be like that.

Of course, it should be able to block!
And to prevent it from overpowering, either take possiblity to use it with shields/give penalty with shield. I suggest the second.


oh, and of course, it have to go with dagger buff, otherwise, they *daggers* would become MUCH more underpowered than now.

[Vexus]

I said blunt because some rapiers are cone shape (Not flat but spherical) meaning they don't cut thus blunt damage.

This depends on what model of a rapier is going to be used of course.