Future AWESOME Sandbox Free-Roam Multiplayer ZOMBIE GAME!!

[CrazyCracka420]

http://www.cracked.com/blog/6-amazing-indie-video-games-that-kickstarter-made-possible/

#1 and 2 look pretty promising

I love the wasteland 2 video

Publisher: Is this a billion dollar franchise?
Developer: Probably not
Pub: Then I can't help you
Dev:  So you're turning down a game that the fans want?
Publisher: Hey I'm a publisher


Hahaha just how I think of publishers nowadays.  Wasteland 2 isn't my kind of game, I hate party system RPG's, but still a hilarious (and seems very accurate) video of what developers have to deal with.

[B3RS3RK]

Well chadz I agree with you that the kind of funding you mention is far more exciting and would fare even better than the donation system.I would regularly invest in indie games if there was a system like you described.

Let´s hope there will be some Developers thinking the same in the future

PS: YOU could make a start ;)

[Bjord]

It shows promise, and an open world zombie fps IS almost every gamer's holy grail. The fact that they're attempting something no developer has alone is worth a tilt of the hat.

Can't claim I'm not suspicious of their approach however, and I think chadz said something quite profound. Micro investment sounds like a sensible funding strategy, as the developers will have to show a complete concept and structure in order to seem invest-worthy. It really is a win/win situation, given that all things go according to plan.

[B3RS3RK]

They only problem with micro-investing is that you probably need to hire a team for the paperworks and shit alone.

Which would end up costing a lot more than it would without it.

[rufio]

i originally posted this on nordmen forum, serfonz said he had already checked the official forums of these guys, dev's seemed to be dicks he said and he thought game would fail, in serfonz i trust, qq

[Bjord]

They only problem with micro-investing is that you probably need to hire a team for the paperworks and shit alone.

Which would end up costing a lot more than it would without it.

Why is that? There are a lot of independent companies with the founder on their own, dealing with paperwork. And I'm sure there is some system that helps you keep track of who invested what and so forth.

If there isn't, that's a shame. It could be a lot like Kickstarter, largely community driven with awards and fun achievements. Instead of donations, you invest in games that you believe in and would like to see become reality, and you can also see how many people decided to invest in a game including what the average amount of money people invest. On your profile you can keep track of the amount of money you've invested and also a tool of some form that helps you calculate eventual return share. Both the people running the site will benefit, the investors and of course the developers that have the talent and idea.

A community that rewards innovation, supports independent game development and promotes a publisher-free game industry. Sort of like a dream, isn't it?

[B3RS3RK]

I jizzed my pants.

[djavo]

So whats the story with this kickstarter?  If project fails do you get your money back? Do they apologize? Do people hunt them?

[Leesin]

Yeah.. does the Pledge money get returned to the pledgers if the project doesn't reach 60k for them to begin? I certainly wouldn't give even a penny to a group of strangers if it was just one massive gamble, I mean, the game turning out to be complete shit is one thing, but losing your money and them not even getting the project going because they only recieved 50k of the 60k they 'needed' would be pretty annoying lol. I imagine they will reach the goal easily, but I'm just curious what would happen to the rest of the money if they didn't hit 60k.

[CrazyCracka420]

Yeah.. does the Pledge money get returned to the pledgers if the project doesn't reach 60k for them to begin? I certainly wouldn't give even a penny to a group of strangers if it was just one massive gamble, I mean, the game turning out to be complete shit is one thing, but losing your money and them not even getting the project going because they only recieved 50k of the 60k they 'needed' would be pretty annoying lol. I imagine they will reach the goal easily, but I'm just curious what would happen to the rest of the money if they didn't hit 60k.

I read somewhere that if they don't hit their goal they return all the money.  That being said, if they hit their goal and just spend it all on blow and hookers...no refund for you. 

In theory it's a cool idea (fans donate because they like the game concept, not publishers financing because they think it will be a billion dollar franchise), but they have no accountability to the donors.  The publisher system is decent, but a lot of really cool ideas never see the light of day because it's not "mainstream" or isn't mimicking an already proven game.

[djavo]

Thats a big problem, I mean there is a lot of this kickstarter projects, even bigger studios fail to produce game or make it in time.
So you cannot be certain that when they reach fund goal they will actually make something. And that is big problem.

[Christo]

This kickstarter thingy is awesome.

Guide on how to earn money with kickstarter;

Step one: Have a good concept and some skill in game development

Step two:Make some early concept art and an inspirational video

Step three: Go to kickstarter, start a project there

Step four: Calculate the money required for actually developing said project

Step Five: Multiply calculated sum by x2

???
Profit!

Of course I'm just joking, and would like to think that developers there are honest about these things. But it's a nice opportunity, you just have to ask a "little bit" more.

And you'll have to be a total bastard, as well.

[bilwit]

This kickstarter thingy is awesome.

Guide on how to earn money with kickstarter;

Step one: Have a good concept and some skill in game development

Step two:Make some early concept art and an inspirational video

Step three: Go to kickstarter, start a project there

Step four: Calculate the money required for actually developing said project

Step Five: Multiply calculated sum by x2

???
Profit!

Of course I'm just joking, and would like to think that developers there are honest about these things. But it's a nice opportunity, you just have to ask a "little bit" more.

And you'll have to be a total bastard, as well.

If you have enough skill and resources to make an appealing project that would attract the kind of attention/donations that these ones are then you wouldn't be wasting your time scheming and being a con man. The donation system inherently polices itself. (For example, Wasteland 2 already has a reputation and following backed by people with legitimate experience and resumes, other games like this one and the steampunk one already have a bunch of work already done to show, etc). The real con is huge corporation publishers putting out day-1 DLC releases and minor expansions every 4 months which include a couple maps and reskins.

[Malaclypse]

Well, it looks like they've almost collected their goal. 3 people donated over 1000 dollars, jesus.

[Loar Avel]

I like the Principe of kick starter.

It's like tell to the game editor to fuck off, and directly ask the Fan or the gamer what they really want.



Also, most of the time, it's more like buying the game in advance than donating. (Well, you also have to be patient because your buying it before development have even started, and you can be really disappointed but...)


I'm more than curious to see what will become of the project for Wasteland 2, Admiral o' the High Seas - Naval Adventures (Pathfinder, 4e) or Shadowrun Returns