Horse Archer

[Kradus]

Now I'm horseman and ha are so anoying... So I want to do ha too, but is it big diffrence with khergit bow and strong bow on horse? I mean, I want this build:
    * Strength: 15
    * Agility: 24
    * Hit points: 50

    * Converted: 8
    * Ironflesh: 0
    * Power Strike: 0
    * Shield: 0
    * Athletics: 0
    * Riding: 6
    * Horse Archery: 4
    * Power Draw: 5
    * Power Throw: 0
    * Weapon Master: 8

    * Polearm: 5
    * Archery: 173

And this:
    * Strength: 12
    * Agility: 27
    * Hit points: 47

    * Converted: 8
    * Ironflesh: 0
    * Power Strike: 0
    * Shield: 0
    * Athletics: 0
    * Riding: 6
    * Horse Archery: 4
    * Power Draw: 4
    * Power Throw: 0
    * Weapon Master: 9


    * Polearm: 5
    * Archery: 181

Is it big diffrent with those two builds? I mean about aiming on fast speed...

[corto]

u should think about a combination, since (community correct me if i am wrong) 5 pdraw with strongbow is not a good option - same for 4 and kergit.

i retired an archer yesterday with 170 archery, 5 pdraw and a fine strongbow - quite accurate with strongbow if u release the arrows instantly, but then i picked up a fine kergit for fun and noticed that it was much much more accurate and safe for my teammates... with the strongbow it's a bit luck where ur arrows go when u hold it for more than about 0,5 seconds with 5 pdraw.

atm i have 6 pdraw with masterwork strongbow and 140 wpf - still i cant hold it long enough. but i dont know if the solution is pd up to 7 or more wpf..

so, think about the kergit with a 15/24 build.

pdraw gives u damage and as far as i know still a passive increase to arrow traveling speed.
i dont really know what pdraw does to accuracy, but i think that with every pdraw over requirement u can hold the bow longer without having the reticule over whole screen.

[Murchad]

So far I have done best with the exact same build you have on top, I did it with heirloomed Khergit and it was really good.

Right now i am in the process of making a weird HA build

Level 30
12str
30agi
4pd
5ha
5wm
3riding

uses khergit, bodkins, steppe horse, ill tell you how it goes when i get to level 30

[Safavid]

What secondary weapon do you use for the HA?  (1H/Shield, 2H, Polearm, etc.)

[corto]

as u need more than 1 quiver u are not able to use a shield.

i prefer 2h because i enjoy it, but polearms are much easier to kill with if u dont have pstrike or wpf. just a lance and couch and its a 1hit.

if u have some style u will use something less "arcade".

i would say u should not give a single point in a melee-proficiency. as long as u do so, u can pickup/buy everything and use it from the same base... it depends on u if u need a sword, or a lance or a hammer or whatever..

[EliteDragon]

You have my exact same build atm. I'm using the Strong Bow one and I think its fine. You won't be able to snipe people, but it should be a good support build. Horses, overall hits, etc.

[Murchad]

I just retired my 12/30 build
was ok but really hard to deal out enough damage before horse goes down with only 4pd and the weak lvl 3 horses
I did heirloom my steppe horse so I may have another go at it.
I could outmanouver cav ok with the steppe even with 3 riding unless there were more than 2 riding at me.
my biggest complaint was the horse being shot down by ranged so fast. so the heavy steppe may make it a viable build.

I would like to try a 9/30 build but i'm not sure if i want to spend 3 heirlooms masterworking a nomad bow.
9str
30agi
3pd
10wm
5ha
5riding
I would really like to see how fast you can shoot with masterwork nomad with 10wm in archery

[Dravic]

Murchad, you better try this Horse Crossbowman build:

Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)
Strength: 7
Agility: 30
Hit points: 42
Converted: 4
Ironflesh: 0
Power Strike: 2
Shield: 0
Athletics: 0
Riding: 10
Horse Archery: 5
Power Draw: 0
Power Throw: 0
Weapon Master: 10
One Handed: 1
Two Handed: 1
Polearm: 1
Archery: 1
Crossbow: 190
Throwing: 1

Light xbow, steel bolts, your favourite horse and here you go, no need of heirlooming anything to make it viable - it is viable as it is, with regular equipement.

[Murchad]

I might do that for 1 gen just to try out...
but i'm more of a horsearcher rather than horsecrossbowman

[Safavid]

Anybody have stats for a good Horse Archer build?

[Sammael]

Anybody have stats for a good Horse Archer build?

I think the 15/24 build that the OP first suggested is the standard. Good accuracy and power.

However, if you want something a little more versatile, I might suggest my HA's build.

Htdplystyl

    * Strength: 18
    * Agility: 18

    * Converted: 2   
    * Ironflesh: 0
    * Power Strike: 6   
    * Shield: 0
    * Athletics: 4
    * Riding: 4
    * Horse Archery: 3
    * Power Draw: 6
    * Power Throw: 0
    * Weapon Master: 6

    * Archery: 155

This build gives a wide variety of possible play styles. Plenty of PS to kill in melee, enough athletics to not be incredibly annoyed when trying to run anywhere, enough PD to use a warbow if you want, and still decent enough when aiming from horseback. 3 HA, in my opinion, is very viable, especially when using a slower, more manueverable horse. Slowing down a little while aiming also helps.

[Dravic]

Atm this is the best you can do without sacrificing riding skill:

Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)

Strength: 12
Agility: 24
Hit points: 49
Converted: 2
Ironflesh: 1
Power Strike: 4
Shield: 0
Athletics: 0
Riding: 8
Horse Archery: 4
Power Draw: 4
Power Throw: 0
Weapon Master: 8
One Handed: 1
Two Handed: 1
Polearm: 1
Archery: 173
Crossbow: 1
Throwing: 1

[Dravic]

Sammael:

enough PD to use a warbow if you want

Trollolo!

Warbow and Longbow can't be used on horseback. Also, your build is shit if we talk about HORSE archer build.

[Sammael]

Sammael:

Trollolo!

Warbow and Longbow can't be used on horseback. Also, your build is shit if we talk about HORSE archer build.

You're quite right, I should have specified. I meant for use on the ground regarding the warbow, my apologies. While I admit this build isn't the best build to HA with, it is very viable imo. It also is versatile, which was my point. If you see, I recommended a 15/24 build as best for pure HA. My 18/18 build is if you don't want to HA every map, and still be useful in other aspects of the game.

Please remain respectful when posting please

[Murchad]

Htdplystyl
looks like a fun build,
seems like it would be good at harassing infantry with the higher pd
if there is a good HA on you should probobly dismount.
when fighting you i usually had more trouble with you when you were dismounted when i was playing HA.

Idea for hard hitting HA, keep in mind i have never tried this build yet.
21/18
7pd
7riding
6wm
3HA
with 3 HA you have to slow down before long range shots
fast moving shots will usually be against cav so you need to be close
7riding should enable to to keep at a close range long enough to make some shots.
for melee use pierce damage weapon. morning star on horse, bec on foot.