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Re: SWORD AND BOARD ANALYSIS
« Reply #45 on: March 12, 2011, 03:00:13 am »
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@ BalrogBoru.
You cannot be high king of the celts AND a demon. sorry. And I do not care for the huscarl scimitar agi shielder, I have seen enough of those, there is such a thing as style. And this was not intended to be a 'this is better / ez mode', etc thread, but a noting of some differences in playstyles.

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I like people who use IF.

IF is the most underrated point dump in the game.  Everybody has made it out to be a waste but more often than not I am still running halfway through matches with a shred of life and still killing, and it was the IF that kept me going. 
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Re: SWORD AND BOARD ANALYSIS
« Reply #46 on: March 12, 2011, 03:03:37 am »
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I am going to ask this: how many uber killing machines do you see with a steel pick?

Pick is too dam short, with my 5 athletics you cannot close the distance well enough, plus its gonna get nerfed since it is somewhat ridiculous
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Re: SWORD AND BOARD ANALYSIS
« Reply #47 on: March 12, 2011, 03:05:56 am »
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I am going to ask this: how many uber killing machines do you see with a steel pick?

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Re: SWORD AND BOARD ANALYSIS
« Reply #48 on: March 12, 2011, 03:06:02 am »
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Just use the pick by itself then(j/k but it is viable)

One hand and shield is easy with the top weapons,  coming from one hand uber pick kalam and man o side sword this is kinda silly

Similar to me saying its hard to kill people with any top weapon if you're a good player(minus archery which of the three ranged I feel takes way more investment to have effectiveness )

Of course if u suck then.....time for failure

Between wifeys +1 side sword and movers deadly pick, wish I had a mighty iron war axe to complete the one hand rape trifecta

Hey if they didnt nerf my old weapon, the long espada I would still be using that but noo, it needed a tiny nerf aparently
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Re: SWORD AND BOARD ANALYSIS
« Reply #49 on: March 12, 2011, 03:09:05 am »
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I am all about the battleaxe myself.  Forget length.  If your using a shield you better be hugging that 2 hander/polearm opponent and wrecking his swing capacity anyways.  Giving them swing room is asking for your shield to be splintered.  Knockdown on the warhammer is my second fave. 

I know everyone favors the scimitar but with it's limited attacks I think it's easily parried.  Also, given it has no thrust it would lead to TK's with an abundance of side swings in group attacks.  Swords in general seem gimp with no shield splinter bonus or knockdown, but to each their own!
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Re: SWORD AND BOARD ANALYSIS
« Reply #50 on: March 12, 2011, 03:10:19 am »
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In group situations, I find you cannot always get in the persons face, due to team mates interfering
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Re: SWORD AND BOARD ANALYSIS
« Reply #51 on: March 12, 2011, 03:12:28 am »
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IF is the most underrated point dump in the game.  Everybody has made it out to be a waste but more often than not I am still running halfway through matches with a shred of life and still killing, and it was the IF that kept me going.

/agree having a sliver left because uhad max if can be the difference between a str polearm one shorting u and having a second chance to take him and the next four guys out
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Re: SWORD AND BOARD ANALYSIS
« Reply #52 on: March 12, 2011, 05:29:51 am »
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Hey if they didnt nerf my old weapon, the long espada I would still be using that but noo, it needed a tiny nerf aparently

anything u use needs to be nerfed
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Re: SWORD AND BOARD ANALYSIS
« Reply #53 on: March 12, 2011, 06:54:28 am »
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In group situations, I find you cannot always get in the persons face, due to team mates interfering

Agreed, and i admit I'm partly to blame for this (spear and sheild). It's very difficult to sneak in my death-pokes with either spear or pike when my teammates is hugging the face of an enemy, yet despite the risk to my teammate I feel oblidged to help him gang up on the enemy, but occasionally I end up poking his butt and messing with his groove. Sry

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Re: SWORD AND BOARD ANALYSIS
« Reply #54 on: March 12, 2011, 03:16:15 pm »
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Hey if they didnt nerf my old weapon, the long espada I would still be using that but noo, it needed a tiny nerf aparently

Don't cry, fact that espada is no longer top 1h weapon does not mean it's nerfed hard. It's fine, it's just you who cant play without op weapon.
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Re: SWORD AND BOARD ANALYSIS
« Reply #55 on: March 12, 2011, 03:59:59 pm »
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My short view on swordNboard after 2 weeks of playing on my alt character - it's great. Whiners will never stop whining anyway.



Name of this great char?

I have to admit I am curious to see you, especially I have never seen a Shogunate doing anything but get the biggest easiest spam weapons, like long hafted blades or maces, and run and spam around.

Well, of course I have also seen Shogunates following their Samurai tradition and fighting a peasant in 7 vs 1.


All, maybe it has been overlooked, but I am still waiting for some evidence that you can do better as 1hshielder than as other class.

I at least cant. I have some maps I get some kills, but also some (when I am stuck in a "noob" team) were I only reach a k d of 1.

With polearm or 2h I never have these situations, once my char is level 20. I always kill at least 2 or 3 enemies, even if my teammates are totally incompetent. What is most of the time. Unfortunately.


The main problem I see as 1hshielder is, when I play like its meant to be played, and charge the enemies ranged, I get backstabed, because my teammates dont understand to hold the line.

When I look around, to deal with cav or 2h/polearms myself, to avoid being backstabbed, I get shot in the back.

Also, as 2h/polearm you can wear heavy armor and just push forward, spam your weapon and kill many before you go down.

And of course, as polearm/2h, you dont need to invest skill points in shield, so you can get a bow, crossbow or throwing, or convert many points and be strong and fast at the same time.

A strong 1hshielder still doesnt do much damage.

A 2h/polearm with power strike 6 is already a killing machine, a superfast one.


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Re: SWORD AND BOARD ANALYSIS
« Reply #56 on: March 12, 2011, 04:11:46 pm »
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Well, you suck with any class you play. Point being?
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Re: SWORD AND BOARD ANALYSIS
« Reply #57 on: March 12, 2011, 04:32:14 pm »
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I always read "SWORD AND BOARD ANAL..." on the forum index. That was pure intention.
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Re: SWORD AND BOARD ANALYSIS
« Reply #58 on: March 12, 2011, 06:30:28 pm »
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I think that anyone who has a problem with sword and boarders (other than it being boring as hell to fight them) probably has never leveled one. Unless you're going up against a ton of throwers and archers, 2 handers and polearms are much more effective.
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Re: SWORD AND BOARD ANALYSIS
« Reply #59 on: March 12, 2011, 06:46:44 pm »
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I always read "SWORD AND BOARD ANAL..." on the forum index. That was pure intention.

That would explain the postings by people who didn't read it and just assumed I equated 1h + shield with some wierd hentai.
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