Why is my One Handed so slow?

[Fazar]

It could just be Im against people with 200 two handed skills, but using the fastest one hander I can, and about 109 points into one handed mastery, I get outswung by people with claymores, and polearms.  There has to be something Im doing wrong.

[Vibe]

Yes, you need to work on your footwork and turning into the swing. 110 wpf is way enough to not get spammed, hell even 1 wpf is.

[larlek]

109 isn't "fast" it's acceptable but really you're going to be slow untill you get at least 130-140 in your weapon spec. Most agi builds have like 170+ in their weapon.

Yes, you need to work on your footwork and turning into the swing. 110 wpf is way enough to not get spammed, hell even 1 wpf is.

+1
your footwork is what matters. I've been killed by retired peasants with wooden swords. not because of their lvl or stats but because of their skill.

[Spawny]

109 isn't "fast" it's acceptable but really you're going to be slow untill you get at least 130-140 in your weapon spec. Most agi builds have like 170+ in their weapon.

+1
your footwork is what matters. I've been killed by retired peasants with wooden swords. not because of their lvl or stats but because of their skill.

Another reason you're being outswung by slower weapons is turning. Not just your positioning relative to your enemy is important, but you can also turn into your swing to make it connect faster. Just turn into the direction you're swinging in to do it.
Go to the duelserver and watch good duelers. You'll be able to figure out the movement patterns quickly.

Wpf only becomes an issue imo, when you have 2 good duelers. Only then the marginal speed increase might make a difference.

[larlek]

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My feelings have been hurt

[Spawny]

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[larlek]

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[Mlekce]

dude it is because they have longer reach. yoo cant realy do anything about it, except develop agility and athletic,grap steel pick,big shield and get close to their face and kill the bastards. Beware of axes,and maulers,and kicks.

[[ptx]]

dude it is because they have longer reach. yoo cant realy do anything about it, except develop agility and athletic,grap steel pick,big shield and get close to their face and kill the bastards. Beware of axes,and maulers,and kicks.

Yeah, that makes a ton of sense.

Alternatively, learn footwork, timing and use a long one handed sword.

[Spawny]

As I understood it, the OP meant others are swinging their slower weapons faster than he is, eventhough he has a fast 1h weapon.

I don't really see the relevance of reach, as it has very little to do with swing speed (other than that longer weapons are usually slower).

[Zanze]

If getting outswung while using a 1h, only a few probs. You aren't turning into your swung, you are using the wrong swing(right swing at close range), or you are simply reacting too slow. Practice

[Camaris]

You can spam some people even with mauls if they are doing it the wrong way ;)

[Fazar]

I could see the turning while swinging thing.  Also would ping/shields contribute to the slowness?  Say the delay in lowering the shield, then the delay in swinging the weapon?

[Vibe]

I could see the turning while swinging thing.  Also would ping/shields contribute to the slowness?  Say the delay in lowering the shield, then the delay in swinging the weapon?

Ping contributes to slowness yes. So does a slow shield.

[Digglez]

besides FOOTWORK which is very important, also note that the different swings have different speeds & reaches.

with 1h

Left to right is shortest reach but fastest.
Right to left swing is longest reach but slowest. 

DO NOT use right swing in close combat until you get more experience in the game, its a death sentence for newer players.  I would also avoid thrusts too as a new player, it takes time to figure out when and HOW exactly to use them.

Left swings should account for 50% or more of your attacks a shielder.  Circle your enemies COUNTER-clockwise for maximum effect.


16 generation shielder here.