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Offline Rainbow

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New Fencing themed toons
« on: March 25, 2012, 12:39:43 am »
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Create fencing weps that do thrust damage and are 1handers and open up a new shield as a small dagger that will block all but can break.  That would be tits!
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Re: New Fencing themed toons
« Reply #1 on: March 25, 2012, 01:03:06 am »
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That would be tits!
What happened to you being gay?
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Re: New Fencing themed toons
« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2012, 01:12:22 am »
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Scottish, Italian, Side, Espada, broad shortsword are all FENCING style THRUST weapons.  Any of those swords would shatter in two if they tried to actually parry a 2h/polearm weapon
« Last Edit: March 25, 2012, 06:43:18 am by Digglez »

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Re: New Fencing themed toons
« Reply #3 on: March 25, 2012, 01:12:49 am »
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What happened to you being gay?

Maybe he is into shemales or something?

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Re: New Fencing themed toons
« Reply #4 on: March 25, 2012, 08:58:05 am »
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Scottish, Italian, Side, Espada, broad shortsword are all FENCING style THRUST weapons.  Any of those swords would shatter in two if they tried to actually parry a 2h/polearm weapon

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Re: New Fencing themed toons
« Reply #5 on: March 25, 2012, 01:18:13 pm »
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What happened to you being gay , made laugh so bad xD
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Re: New Fencing themed toons
« Reply #6 on: March 25, 2012, 06:47:19 pm »
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no

looks like devs need a history lesson

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Re: New Fencing themed toons
« Reply #7 on: March 25, 2012, 08:56:59 pm »
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looks like devs need a history lesson

Nobody blocks anything (warband does it simply because it is a crude program, and hollywood does it because it looks "cool"), parry lets you shift weight around and deflect...

Seems like someone needs a lesson on proper sword play.
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Re: New Fencing themed toons
« Reply #8 on: March 25, 2012, 09:58:42 pm »
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I would really like fencing themed Items, for example Fencing-Shirts, Rapiers and epees.

Currently the only sword that can be used for an halfway-authentic fencing char is the espada eslavona.

I would also appreciate more Cutlass-Style swords and sabers and such.

Could be pretty awesome.
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Re: New Fencing themed toons
« Reply #9 on: March 26, 2012, 12:30:58 am »
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Nobody blocks anything (warband does it simply because it is a crude program, and hollywood does it because it looks "cool"), parry lets you shift weight around and deflect...

Seems like someone needs a lesson on proper sword play.

looks like you need swordplay + physics lesson

Lets see you stop my 10lb flamberge side swing with your >1lb thrust fencing rapier that is less than an 1/4 of an inch thick and watch it bend/shatter and get yourself killed.  You think your magical parry just destroys or disappates energy of opponents swing?  When an opponents weapon has 10x more mass than yours, parry is not an option, especially when your life depends on it.


I have year & half of Sabre fencing & Kendo, what do you have?

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Re: New Fencing themed toons
« Reply #10 on: March 26, 2012, 12:45:37 am »
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Well that´s not really the best possible example.

Of course you will break his puny little block swinging such a weapon(although in Real life he could easily stick your face while your are busy lifting your humongous sword around), but you would also do so swinging a tree trunk.

Most of the other swords ingame could easily be blocked with a rapier by "Shifting around weight and deflecting".

And since Warband doesnt support a block-breaking mechanic based on angle and weight of participating weapons etc. we will have to stick to what we´ve got.
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Re: New Fencing themed toons
« Reply #11 on: March 26, 2012, 02:12:38 am »
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although in Real life he could easily stick your face while your are busy lifting your humongous sword around
doubtful

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Re: New Fencing themed toons
« Reply #12 on: March 26, 2012, 05:12:13 am »
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looks like devs need a history lesson
a rapier can parry a full-intent longsword strike without so much as a nick.
http://www.salvatorfabris.org/RapierParryingLongsword.shtml

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Re: New Fencing themed toons
« Reply #13 on: March 26, 2012, 08:16:59 am »
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A piece of steel that is only held at one point is really really hard to break - even a piece of wood is. Your argument should be that the static block displayed in Warband wouldn't help much to stop a heavier weapon, leading to a crush through and probably damaging the wrist of the defender. But the weapons itself, especially short and thus sturdy ones like the broad short sword would most likely not break into two.

We have to imagine the blocks more like parries that deflect instead of taking the force of the blow head on. With that even lighter weapons that would otherwise be knocked away in the momentum exchange can be used to defend. Read the article Shik provided.

Lastly, I doubt you understand physics at all.
« Last Edit: March 26, 2012, 08:21:21 am by Paul »

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Re: New Fencing themed toons
« Reply #14 on: March 26, 2012, 08:30:00 am »
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doubtful

Not at all, actually.

If the guy with the rapier manages to get close up the guy with the flamberge will have more holes in his body than a swiss cheese before he can say :" I shouldnt have brought his 10lb weapon to a single man duel...".

GIven of course the rapier-guy actually manages to get up close.
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