Author Topic: REMOVE THE NO-XP/GOLD WHEN ESC. Is UP!  (Read 3438 times)

0 Members and 2 Guests are viewing this topic.

Offline Bulzur

  • Earl
  • ******
  • Renown: 465
  • Infamy: 102
  • cRPG Player A Gentleman and a Scholar
    • View Profile
  • Faction: Caravan Guild.
  • Game nicks: Guard_Bulzur
Re: REMOVE THE NO-XP/GOLD WHEN ESC. Is UP!
« Reply #15 on: March 18, 2012, 07:41:17 pm »
0
Never knew about that either. So checking forums while dead = no xp/gold ? Incredible;

But true, just experienced it... now that's a real bother.
[14:36] <@chadz> when you login there is a message "your life as horse archer was too depressing for you. you decided to commit suicide. please create a new char"
[19:32] <@chadz> if(dave_ukr_is_in_server) then rain_chance = 98%;

Offline Kafein

  • King
  • **********
  • Renown: 2203
  • Infamy: 808
  • cRPG Player Sir White Rook A Gentleman and a Scholar
    • View Profile
Re: REMOVE THE NO-XP/GOLD WHEN ESC. Is UP!
« Reply #16 on: March 18, 2012, 07:48:27 pm »
0
Never knew about that either. So checking forums while dead = no xp/gold ? Incredible;

But true, just experienced it... now that's a real bother.

Well if you don't press esc and just alt-tab out of the game it should be okay... I'm not sure.

Offline Bulzur

  • Earl
  • ******
  • Renown: 465
  • Infamy: 102
  • cRPG Player A Gentleman and a Scholar
    • View Profile
  • Faction: Caravan Guild.
  • Game nicks: Guard_Bulzur
Re: REMOVE THE NO-XP/GOLD WHEN ESC. Is UP!
« Reply #17 on: March 18, 2012, 08:00:01 pm »
0
Well if you don't press esc and just alt-tab out of the game it should be okay... I'm not sure.

Nah, alt-Tab makes the game crash. Only way is to alt-enter and then Esc.
[14:36] <@chadz> when you login there is a message "your life as horse archer was too depressing for you. you decided to commit suicide. please create a new char"
[19:32] <@chadz> if(dave_ukr_is_in_server) then rain_chance = 98%;

Offline Kafein

  • King
  • **********
  • Renown: 2203
  • Infamy: 808
  • cRPG Player Sir White Rook A Gentleman and a Scholar
    • View Profile
Re: REMOVE THE NO-XP/GOLD WHEN ESC. Is UP!
« Reply #18 on: March 18, 2012, 08:19:47 pm »
0
Nah, alt-Tab makes the game crash. Only way is to alt-enter and then Esc.

It's funny, I hear everywhere that the game crashes on alt-tab, but I never had the case, even on my old computer or crappy laptop.

You can always try using the goshdamned windows key that would finally have a use if it works.

Offline Miwiw

  • King
  • **********
  • Renown: 1267
  • Infamy: 525
  • cRPG Player Sir White Knight A Gentleman and a Scholar
    • View Profile
  • Faction: HRE
  • Game nicks: Miwiw
Re: REMOVE THE NO-XP/GOLD WHEN ESC. Is UP!
« Reply #19 on: March 18, 2012, 08:46:44 pm »
+1
If you play in window mode (or alt enter) you do not crash with alt tab and you never need esc. Never. And I often check my equipment at the same moment a tick should come, once closing the tick comes. ;)
Miwiw_HRE - Two Handed
Trade with me

Offline Gisbert_of_Thuringia

  • Count
  • *****
  • Renown: 169
  • Infamy: 136
  • cRPG Player
    • View Profile
  • Faction: Caravan Guild
  • Game nicks: Guard_Gisbert_of_Thuringia, Guard_Bernulf_of_Thuringia, Guard_Ranulf_of_Thuringia etc...
Re: REMOVE THE NO-XP/GOLD WHEN ESC. Is UP!
« Reply #20 on: March 18, 2012, 09:37:05 pm »
0
When you die and you perss escape (regardless what you do afterwards, equipscreen, rulescheck, start a poll etc) you don't get xp.
This was implemented due to many people at siege who spawned, died and went afk. Perfect leeching without any chance to see whether the person went afk midround or was just actively leeching.

Only chance to get rid of that was by changing the system so that you don't get any xp/gold when you press escape. Now people spawn again on siege and get killed and after some time qml'ed or kicked by admins.

Alt+tabbing out of the game when you are dead is no problem, as long as you don't press escape beforehand.

Alt+tabbing might cause crashed, especially when you do it too often (and it seems especially when you have a multi :D )
Alt+Enter for windowmode works better and reduces crash chance (can still happen)
As far as I know it's not related to one's pc. It's just mount and blade and it's crappy engine :D
« Last Edit: March 18, 2012, 09:38:41 pm by Gisbert_of_Thuringia »

Offline RibaldRon

  • Baron
  • ****
  • Renown: 144
  • Infamy: 13
  • cRPG Player
  • why do butts
    • View Profile
  • Faction: LLJK
  • Game nicks: LLJK_RibaldRon
Re: REMOVE THE NO-XP/GOLD WHEN ESC. Is UP!
« Reply #21 on: March 18, 2012, 09:41:42 pm »
0
Nah, alt-Tab makes the game crash. Only way is to alt-enter and then Esc.
This is not the case for me, as I regularly check market/forums while dead.

I have paid attention to this and I do get EXP unless I hit ESC.


IMHO what we need is an auto-kick, and some sort of spawn protection (so cav can't kill these leechers on some maps, before they are auto kicked)
signature removed: annoying
visitors can't see pics , please register or login

USA USA USA

Offline Rumblood

  • King
  • **********
  • Renown: 1199
  • Infamy: 420
  • cRPG Player A Gentleman and a Scholar
    • View Profile
  • Game nicks: GrannPappy
Re: REMOVE THE NO-XP/GOLD WHEN ESC. Is UP!
« Reply #22 on: March 18, 2012, 10:47:35 pm »
+1
Good to know that using the Admin menu prevents them from gaining experience. They are aboozers anyhow  :lol:
"I don't think much of a man who is not wiser today than he was yesterday" – Abraham Lincoln

visitors can't see pics , please register or login

Offline Slamz

  • Earl
  • ******
  • Renown: 386
  • Infamy: 112
  • cRPG Player
    • View Profile
  • Faction: Norse Horde
  • Game nicks: NH_Slamz
Re: REMOVE THE NO-XP/GOLD WHEN ESC. Is UP!
« Reply #23 on: March 19, 2012, 12:51:46 am »
0
This is a seriously stupid feature.

No XP when you have the character stats menu open either (just tested).



Whoever implemented it should flog themselves and undo it.  I must have lost tons of money and XP just from reading the forums between deaths while playing -- the easiest way to do that is to hit ESC so I get my cursor and then slide over to my other monitor.  I can get around this incredibly stupid feature (like I am right now) but it's a hassle.
« Last Edit: March 19, 2012, 12:53:59 am by Slamz »
Crush your enemies; see them driven before you; hear the lamentations of their women.
Norse Horde

Offline Camaris

  • Count
  • *****
  • Renown: 223
  • Infamy: 56
  • cRPG Player A Gentleman and a Scholar
    • View Profile
  • Faction: HRE
  • Game nicks: Neresto_HRE
  • IRC nick: Neresto_HRE
Re: REMOVE THE NO-XP/GOLD WHEN ESC. Is UP!
« Reply #24 on: March 19, 2012, 12:59:58 am »
0
It may suck on battle but on siege ALL player suddenly started joining the game.
While you had about 5-10 (and more in the first round) in spec all the time you now get 1-5 in spec most of the time ;)

Quite refreshing seeing the people playing the game :p
« Last Edit: March 19, 2012, 01:01:10 am by Camaris »

Offline Slamz

  • Earl
  • ******
  • Renown: 386
  • Infamy: 112
  • cRPG Player
    • View Profile
  • Faction: Norse Horde
  • Game nicks: NH_Slamz
Re: REMOVE THE NO-XP/GOLD WHEN ESC. Is UP!
« Reply #25 on: March 19, 2012, 01:13:17 am »
0
Actually I think menus are blocking the text message of XP, but not the XP itself.

Test:

Note your XP.
ESC out of one tick.
Get the next tick.
Look at your XP.  You gained more than 1 tick's worth.

Not gonna take the time to do the math but it looks like the menus are stopping the message but not the actual XP -- it shows up in your stats on the next tick (server knows you got the XP even if the client didn't get the message?)


Actually while testing this I got a tick in the middle of a minute...
So I think you are getting your missing XP.


« Last Edit: March 19, 2012, 01:18:26 am by Slamz »
Crush your enemies; see them driven before you; hear the lamentations of their women.
Norse Horde

Offline Gisbert_of_Thuringia

  • Count
  • *****
  • Renown: 169
  • Infamy: 136
  • cRPG Player
    • View Profile
  • Faction: Caravan Guild
  • Game nicks: Guard_Gisbert_of_Thuringia, Guard_Bernulf_of_Thuringia, Guard_Ranulf_of_Thuringia etc...
Re: REMOVE THE NO-XP/GOLD WHEN ESC. Is UP!
« Reply #26 on: March 19, 2012, 01:28:03 am »
0
Actually I think menus are blocking the text message of XP, but not the XP itself.

Test:

Note your XP.
ESC out of one tick.
Get the next tick.
Look at your XP.  You gained more than 1 tick's worth.

Not gonna take the time to do the math but it looks like the menus are stopping the message but not the actual XP -- it shows up in your stats on the next tick (server knows you got the XP even if the client didn't get the message?)


Actually while testing this I got a tick in the middle of a minute...
So I think you are getting your missing XP.

It was even said in a patchnote a couple of patches ago that it doesn't work anymore. And I've tested it a couple of times unvoluntarily cause I stayed dead on siege due to being afk for a minute or two and I didn't get anything

Offline Slamz

  • Earl
  • ******
  • Renown: 386
  • Infamy: 112
  • cRPG Player
    • View Profile
  • Faction: Norse Horde
  • Game nicks: NH_Slamz
Re: REMOVE THE NO-XP/GOLD WHEN ESC. Is UP!
« Reply #27 on: March 19, 2012, 01:52:29 am »
+1
It was even said in a patchnote a couple of patches ago that it doesn't work anymore. And I've tested it a couple of times unvoluntarily cause I stayed dead on siege due to being afk for a minute or two and I didn't get anything
Yes because chadz always keeps excellent up to date patch notes which represent the reality of the game...

I'm just sayin, try my test and check your actual XP at the end of it.  Doesn't add up if we're really missing ticks.
Crush your enemies; see them driven before you; hear the lamentations of their women.
Norse Horde

Offline LLJK_Goatee

  • Baron
  • ****
  • Renown: 87
  • Infamy: 23
  • cRPG Player
  • "swing Merrill! swing away"
    • View Profile
  • Faction: ADTRW Shogunate
  • IRC nick: Socratic
Re: REMOVE THE NO-XP/GOLD WHEN ESC. Is UP!
« Reply #28 on: March 19, 2012, 06:12:31 am »
-2
Here is a protip kiddo if you want to go afk hit t and then alt tab and you will auto run so you can piss, though I do have over 20 bans from NA 1 so use at your own risk. or get a pee flask and funnel.
visitors can't see pics , please register or login

Offline Vibe

  • Vibrator
  • King
  • **********
  • Renown: 2528
  • Infamy: 615
  • cRPG Player Madam White Queen A Gentleman and a Scholar
    • View Profile
Re: REMOVE THE NO-XP/GOLD WHEN ESC. Is UP!
« Reply #29 on: March 19, 2012, 07:46:46 am »
+2
If people went afk on siege after dying, can't they just force respawn?