Horse bump and shields

[FRANK_THE_TANK]

I was thinking 50% but that might be too high.

If you need a realism angle because you are crazy then its basically you bracing for the impact and taking the fall properly. You should still get slammed to the ground and be kill able but it should be so damn insane. I'm rolling a high agi shielder at the moment and 3 horse bumps from a war horse kills me 100% of the time. Armour socks up horse bump damage so why doesn't a shield?

[Digglez]

disclaimer, I am a 16 generation shielder...

i have a feeling that a shield would only magnify the impact from a horse, your shield absorbing even more/ALL of the kinetic energy than if you were grazed or pushed out of the way by a leg

But as a 1h cav myself, I tend to avoid speedy agi guys due to how easily they can dodge and the amount of damage they can do to my horse.  Assume a more threatening posture and the cav will avoid you if they are smart

[Gurnisson]

I have a better idea, just nerf bump damage from horses.

[San]

Bumps don't do much damage if you're wearing any half-decent armor. It does kind of make sense though since shielders are easier to knockdown from my experience fiddling with cav, but doesn't seem like much of a big deal.

[Rumblood]

disclaimer, I am a 16 generation shielder...

i have a feeling that a shield would only magnify the impact from a horse, your shield absorbing even more/ALL of the kinetic energy than if you were grazed or pushed out of the way by a leg

But as a 1h cav myself, I tend to avoid speedy agi guys due to how easily they can dodge and the amount of damage they can do to my horse.  Assume a more threatening posture and the cav will avoid you if they are smart

No because without it all of that kinetic energy would be focused on a single point, where with the shield it is spread out over a wider area and the energy is imparted to the entire body and not just your knee or collarbone.

[Zlisch_The_Butcher]

Inb4 Alex the drragon claiming bumps do no damage

[_Tak_]

No because without it all of that kinetic energy would be focused on a single point, where with the shield it is spread out over a wider area and the energy is imparted to the entire body and not just your knee or collarbone.

Take a water lemon and hold it in front of your body, tell someone to kick or punch the water lemon hard, you will feel the pain.

If you were holding a shield against a horse bump, when the horse bump you. Because of the impact from horse charge your shield might spam to your face, for example if you were using a steel shield , imagine if a steel shield bam into your face as if you are holding it.

Inb4 Alex the drragon claiming bumps do no damage

I have alot of riding and my bump can do some serious damage. 

[Lemmy_Winks]

Eh if you got trampled by a horse in real life you would be alot more hurt then you are in this game, people have been killed by being trampled instead of being slightly hurt like in this game. As far as the sheild thing, getting hit wiht a sheild on/up would hurt you alot more than being hit without it, although wearing armor would help. The sheild would slam into your face, knocking you out or killing you or atelast breaking your nose. Depending on how your arm is fasten to the sheild it would also break your arm. Being hit with a sheild is basically like being hit with the same force as a horse except the horse is made of steel or very hard wood.

[Rumblood]

Oh right! So everyone who is using a shield should get hit in the face and die from their own shield whenever a Big Ass PoleArm is swung into it! Because all of that energy is transferred to the shield and then directly to the person behind it! You better inform the Dev's of that right quick! 

To the person who thinks that armor next to your skin will absorb more than a shield that has about a foot of give to absorb momentum, you need to rethink your thoughts.

Here's an experiment for you.

Take a pencil and jab it into your leg with 5 lbs of force.

Now take the flat of a board and hit your leg with the same amount of force.

Which did you prefer? Which hurt you?

[Digglez]

a shield might reduce the damage, but pretty much guarantees you get knocked over

[Lemmy_Winks]

Oh right! So everyone who is using a shield should get hit in the face and die from their own shield whenever a Big Ass PoleArm is swung into it! Because all of that energy is transferred to the shield and then directly to the person behind it! You better inform the Dev's of that right quick! 

To the person who thinks that armor next to your skin will absorb more than a shield that has about a foot of give to absorb momentum, you need to rethink your thoughts.

Here's an experiment for you.

Take a pencil and jab it into your leg with 5 lbs of force.

Now take the flat of a board and hit your leg with the same amount of force.

Which did you prefer? Which hurt you?

Someone hitting you with a pole arm does not deliver anywhere near, not even close to as much force as a horse trampling you. And given your logic i guess you believe that football/hockey pads do not do anything. Also i did not know that a horse was a pencil, or that a horse hitting you is equal to 5 pounds of force, thank you for that. A 2,000 pound horse hitting you at 40mph is alot more force than  a 20 pound weapon hitting you at a relatively low speed.

[Digglez]

I dont think physics wing of science was invented yet when Granpappy was in high school

[Wraist]

I dont think physics wing of science was invented yet when Granpappy was in high school

Please, never bring up an argument based on physics, your understanding seems to be lacking.

[Rumblood]

a shield might reduce the damage, but pretty much guarantees you get knocked over

This argument isn't over whether they would get knocked down. It is about the damage taken. Seeing as you understand that a shield will reduce the damage taken, it must be that GrannPappy invented the physics wing.

What is a joke is someone thinking that holding a shield between you and the horse would cause MORE damage to you. 

[Lemmy_Winks]

This argument isn't over whether they would get knocked down. It is about the damage taken. Seeing as you understand that a shield will reduce the damage taken, it must be that GrannPappy invented the physics wing.

What is a joke is someone thinking that holding a shield between you and the horse would cause MORE damage to you. 

This thread is about damage done to someone being reduced by 50% because they have their shield up, which is completely retarded. It reminds me of those cold war videos that tell you if you duck and cover under your desk you will be safe from a nuclear bomb. Shield or no shield you get hurt badly, and with a shield it can be slammed into your face or it can break you arm as i already stated doing more damage to you.