What to do about TKers? [feedback]

[Vexus]

Warn first in admin chat that if he TKs again he'll get a 1 day+ ban.

[Alex_C]

I'd ban 'permanently', by which I mean that they'd stay banned until they come and write an appeal explaining what they thought they were doing.

[Korgoth]

reflecting team damage would solve it imo

No there are accidental TKs and Tws too you know.

[IG_Saint]

First offence should nearly always be a kick imo. Just because the admin can rarely see all that's happening or has happend. Banner bug is an example, or maybe the "victim" had just spent an hour harrassing and TKing on a different server.

[Oberyn]

I'd ban 'permanently', by which I mean that they'd stay banned until they come and write an appeal explaining what they thought they were doing.

Looks like we're the only two people who voted that :/ . High five!

[Lizard_man]

i voted a week ban, firstly, why the fuck are they attacking you on spawn, someone did it to me yesterday, if the punishment is severe, maybe it'll stop people doing it...

[Leiknir]

If I see it with my own eyes and am sure who the attacker was/is, 3 day ban. If common sense doesn't apply, he got his warning when reading the offical rules.
I got no problems with people doing silly stuff as long as they don't ruin the game for other people on purpose, but teamkilling at spawn, not allowing another person to play the game is too much griefing to be dealt with a kick or a simple warning.

edit: Stuff like bannerbug and the like, if you spawn with a team full of non-banner guys that don't attack you, apply common sense and restart the game.

[karasu]

Just a kick for the first time. It CAN be an error.

A swing can be an error, two swings can be a "just making sure there is actually friendly fire" error, killing team mates is pure intention to do harm. A day ban is just the least to be done against such action.

The same should be applied to the team hitters at spawn, might not kill anybody, but really low the odds of the team survival by lowering HP's. And this is more usual than TKrs..

[Ninja_Khorin]

First a warning with pink text. Then a 1hour ban if it persists.
I agree with Lilith, though. Defence TK shouldn't really be allowed either, or TKing leechers. Just poll him or get an admin to ban him.

[Babelfish]

edit: Stuff like bannerbug and the like, if you spawn with a team full of non-banner guys that don't attack you, apply common sense and restart the game.

Well, for some reason i thought i spawned in the middle of the round, and the enemies had overrun my teams spawn(i did spawn late tho). And there were a horse with banner on nearby.

Others might draw the same conclusion that i did.

But of-course i restarted the game when i figured out what was happening

[Ganon]

What you described is the worst kind of tk possible, given no reason someone attacks and tks you at spawn ? At least one day ban, and you shouldn't need to ask, it's really the worst thing a player can do. Revenge tks instead can be treated more lightly, with kicks or 1h bans. Or even just warnings if a guy attacks at spawn and the player defends himself and kills him.

[Hirlok]

Totally agree with harsh punishments for this kind of BS.

Just one thing: short warning in chat or question wtf he is doing.
Some TKs are intentional AND justified.

E.g. I have developed the habit to deal with those teamwounding idiots at spawn by turning around and killing them without further questions.

BTW we had that on another thread already, and I still like the suggestion that a general punishment (gold, exp, or both) should be in place for any teamwounding (intentional or not), and that it should be hitpoints-based, not kill-based. So people might actually watch their swings a bit more, and the intentional teamwounding would be covered as well, because these idiots usually do not kill you (to avoid being caught and punished and get the -1 killpoint), but severely wound you and other teammates.

[Ganon]

Totally agree with harsh punishments for this kind of BS.

Just one thing: short warning in chat or question wtf he is doing.
Some TKs are intentional AND justified.

E.g. I have developed the habit to deal with those teamwounding idiots at spawn by turning around and killing them without further questions.

BTW we had that on another thread already, and I still like the suggestion that a general punishment (gold, exp, or both) should be in place for any teamwounding (intentional or not), and that it should be hitpoints-based, not kill-based. So people might actually watch their swings a bit more, and the intentional teamwounding would be covered as well, because these idiots usually do not kill you (to avoid being caught and punished and get the -1 killpoint), but severely wound you and other teammates.

That's just wrong, you don't know if they're tking because they're lame or if they're defending themselves or revenge tking. You should only tk if you got hit personally, happened more than once that a guy attacks me at spawn for no reason at all, i defend and kill him, and another idiot plays police and attacks me as well, because i teamkilled (while i was only defending after being attacked). It's the most retarded thing you can do.

[Torp]

First a warning with pink text. Then a 1hour ban if it persists.
I agree with Lilith, though. Defence TK shouldn't really be allowed either, or TKing leechers. Just poll him or get an admin to ban him.

so i should just get killed, weaken my team and not play a round, because i can hope an admin will ban him?
actually Thomek came, i told him what had happened and the other players agreed with me. Thomek only kicked the guy.

so tbh, i would do it again if it happened, i want to play the game and not get killed cause some moron thinks it's funny to tk.

[Leesin]

I say an hour ban for a first offense like this, if it's a player new to the game he will learn his lesson fast when he can't play for a bit if he really wanted to play the mod in the first place. If he is caught doing it again he should face a day ban, if he even continues after the day ban it should be a week.

If his/her behaviour continues in a bad way after a week ban then FOREEVVVERRR BANNED. People will either learn their lesson fast not to grief other players or they will end up banned permanently. Either way the community wins.