Solution to the Strength Madness???

[Konrax]

[Son Of Odin]

No. Agility is just underrated. Although EU side doesn't have this problem like you str stackers on the other side of the sea. Agi is viable.

[BADPLAYERold]

No. Agility is just underrated. Although EU side doesn't have this problem like you str stackers on the other side of the sea. Agi is viable.

Pretty sure you are wrong here, I play on NA mainly but I get 40ping to EU as i'm from the UK and whenever I go to EU it's the same as NA with only the very best players doing well with AGI builds and all the rest getting scrubbed by high str spammers in heavy armour.

[larlek]

How about no.

[Moncho]

derp i have NEVER had more than 15 strength (once i went longbow, but i regretted very soon), and i suck, and get nearly 1 kdr, so no, agi is perfectly viable.

[Digglez]

dumb idea, should insitutue 3rd stat, constitution and link it to HP & Ironflesh, remove free WPF and put it into agi like 25-50 WPF per agi

[Cup1d]

Every point in powerstrike must reduce effective melee wpf.

You still can have 36\3 12 ps monster, but with 0 wpf only.

Simple and effective

[Wraist]

dumb idea, should insitutue 3rd stat, constitution and link it to HP & Ironflesh, remove free WPF and put it into agi like 25-50 WPF per agi

Agreed, have Constitution effect riding, shield skill and IF, Strength for PS/PD/PT, and Aths for everything else!

Three different attributes, each having 3 different skills, with each class being dependant on them differently! [I think it's a terrible idea, nobody would bother investing in Constitution if it's only linked to if and having other skills dependant on it makes it a cluster fuck]

Cupid, I believe that Paul said that each PD takes off 14wpf because if it didn't, then it'd add roughly that amount per PD invested. If he's reading, he could tell me how much I fail at reading comprehension.

[Spawny]

Every point in powerstrike must reduce effective melee wpf.

You still can have 36\3 12 ps monster, but with 0 wpf only.

Simple and effective

Allthough it might create some new problems, a similar system as we have now for PD and PT could be made for PS too.
More PS = a bigger penalty to wpf, ultimately making a 12 PS build with no WM have 0 effective wpf.

[The_Bloody_Nine]

Pretty sure you are wrong here, I play on NA mainly but I get 40ping to EU as i'm from the UK and whenever I go to EU it's the same as NA with only the very best players doing well with AGI builds and all the rest getting scrubbed by high str spammers in heavy armour.

no your are wrong.

In general however i get the impressions that many count balanced builds to Agi.

[Cup1d]

Allthough it might create some new problems, a similar system as we have now for PD and PT could be made for PS too.
More PS = a bigger penalty to wpf, ultimately making a 12 PS build with no WM have 0 effective wpf.

It can balance str\agi parity, but we'll still have Iwin weapons like xbow.

Wraist
Just make STF archer character with this stats:
30str\12agi, 6pd, 3 athletics, 4wm, 4 unused skillpoints, 140 wpf in archery - then check longbow\warbow spread at long distance.
After this add 4pd, and check spreads with 10pd and 140 wpf
Glare at spread difference a bit, then ask Paul what did he mean.

[Rumblood]

No. This will result in more 1-hit kills, which is a Bad Thing.

[Vibe]

Every point in powerstrike must reduce effective melee wpf.

You still can have 36\3 12 ps monster, but with 0 wpf only.

Simple and effective

I agree with this.

Noone is saying AGI is bad, just worse than STR. STR has more to offer. One solution would be to make WPF matter more. ^

(I don't agree with OPs suggestion though)

[Xant]

no don't make wpf matter more

[Angantyr]

Something akin to Cup1d's suggestion sounds reasonable.