Blanket stab nerf needed

[Bjord]

The following arguments are irrelevent, and I would appreaciate if people stop repeating them.

- "You can block it." *You can block any attack (except crush through) that doesn't make it balanced.
- "You can do it with any weapon." *Yeah, thanks, that still doesn't make it a good thing.
- "It's the only advantage 2h weapons have over polearms." *Simply not true. 2h weapons have favorable animations which make them significantly longer when swung than a polearm of the same lenght. They have better thrust damage and the speed is about even.

The main problems I see with "spin thrusts" are realism, the way it looks and the fact that it takes away the situaitonal advantage of close ranged fighting from short weapons. A long weapon trying to stab a close range should glance, not deal massive damage.

The question is, how do you fix it?

No offense, but realism doesn't in a game. Unless it's a simulator.

Realism would imply strict adherence to real life.

[chief]

No offense, but realism doesn't in a game. Unless it's a simulator.

Realism would imply strict adherence to real life.

Isn't realism the reason the Loony toons axe was removed? Some aspects do require a degree of realism.

[bruce]

Lastly, I'm pretty positive that the 2h slashes are less likely to glance at close range. Test it. Stand nose to nose with someone, slash with a longhafter blade, and then try with a Bastard sword. Tell me which (if either) glances. If niether of them glance, that's just another problem.

I have never ever at any range whatsoever had a MW glaive (don't remember lesser versions, but I don't remember glances with balanced/deadly either) with 7 PS glance. Ever.

[Xant]

I've never glanced with a GLA when using it with 1 wpf

[Nemeth]

I've never glanced with a GLA when using it with 1 wpf

Doesn't wpf only increase speed? It's like saying I've never glanced with glaive while eating pizza.

[bruce]

Doesn't wpf only increase speed?

Damage as well, for all melee weapons and archery and throwing.

[Tears of Destiny]

Doesn't wpf only increase speed? It's like saying I've never glanced with glaive while eating pizza.

If it increases speed then when it contacts the target the damage will also be increased.

It is the difference from hitting you with the pizza, and giving a single slice to a baseball player and having him throw it at you.

[Nemeth]

If it increases speed then when it contacts the target the damage will also be increased.

It is the difference from hitting you with the pizza, and giving a single slice to a baseball player and having him throw it at you.

Alright, thanks for the clarification.

[Seawied]

If it increases speed then when it contacts the target the damage will also be increased.

It is the difference from hitting you with the pizza, and giving a single slice to a baseball player and having him throw it at you.

No idea what you mean by the pizza reference,


but your analogy for the first part isn't quite true. Damage dealt by your weapon has nothing to do with how fast the weapon is moving. M&B's physics don't work that way. There's a hard programed increase per wpf point. It works out to be about 17% more damage per 100 points of wpf. The exact formula has not been released by taleworlds, but it is somewhat exponential. This means that each point in wpf does not yield a .17% damage increase.