More Balance Abusers...won't write them all in the title.

[Fips]

Map 1:
http://imgur.com/0nOXb

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Okay, right now i can see following people changing the team: Mr_BIN, STR_Nokeyboard, Erzengel, Pleutre, STR_Garry, q1cker, ArcherHelot_The_Grey, Mr_Pandor, STR_HAEMHUK (Last Screen, last player in list)



Map2:
http://imgur.com/bTcIj

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Okay, this time:  Mr_BIN, STR_Garry, T_sgt_zDevilBox, STR_M3RliN, and you can clearly see STR_Doomers and Landsknecht_Gerwazy trying to change the team several times.



I know, a lot of work for you admins, sorry about that 

[Erzengel]

I think thats childish, since EVERYBODY is doing it from time to time (believe me or not, even some HRE members, and no I don't take screens of that, but perhaps I should do it in the future...). I know it can be frustrating to lose several games in a row, but that just happens when lots of members from one clan are playing at the same time. Even if all players would have joined the team they were assigned to, banner balance would have fucked it up the next round. Don't blame everybody else for that. Most of us are adults and we should behave like this. Everybody makes mistakes and I think we are all glad not to get observed and reported for every little fault. It is ok to report people that intentionally ruin other players gaming experience, but you shouldn't overreact because of small things.

And now to my part:

I didn't abuse the banner balance heavily, but I admit that I tryed to switch the teams one or two times. I know that this is not intended and therefore will accept a punishment without crying.

[BD_Baby_Wolf]

What happened to the banner balance?

[Fips]

What happened to the banner balance?

Does not work on first round, you get switched randomly to one team. Which is fine, prevents clans from dominating siege 24/7, although that is exactly the reason why i would love to see it kick in on first round, too. Mooooaaar XP. But as long as that doesn't work, everybody has just to live with it. Some guys can't, obviously 

@Erzengel: I was actually pretty disappointed to see you doing so, too. C'mon, you are not even in a clan, why the hell do you try to switch the teams?
Yeah, because of the multi probably, so don't accuse me of being childish.

[BD_Baby_Wolf]

yep, I too hate being defender on the first round in sieges, but you don't see me trying to switch to attacker. It sure is frustrating to loose your x4/x5 multi just because of that, but you gotta take the game as it is. And a game bug isn't a reason to cheat either.

[Erzengel]

Ofcourse I did it because I didn't want to lose my multi, thats why everybody is doing it. Nobody switches teams, because he just wants to play with his clanmates. I know you are a fair player and I must admit I never saw you doing it. But lets be honest, nearly everybody else is doing it, even the best and well known players. Some of your clanmates (won't tell names in this thread) are doing it too from time to time. Admins did nothing for several months when it really was abused heavilly by a clan we all know and now it is something that is not 100% ok but accepted by the majority of the community. As said before we all make some minor mistakes. If everything would be reported, the game wouldn't be fun or playable. I am sure you also didn't always respect the rules to 100% in the past? Have you never insulted someone because he behaved like an idiot, or teamhit a guy standing on the ladder, or pressed m because somebody hit you too often and it annoyed you? Never? Do you always switch to spectator when you are afk for 30 seconds, even when you have x5? Do you  really always want to get banned for this?
Think about it...

[MarktpLatz]

If you know that it is a mistake to abuse the banner balance, why are you doing it?
I mean, you´re right that a lot of players are doing wrong from time to time, but this is no reason to do it on yourself!

[Moncho]

And the fact that many people do it does not make it right,
what if everyone started murdering irl? would that be fine then? oh yeah, everyone does it, so why shouldnt i? (please note this is sarcastic, dont think im a murderer) extreme example i know, but maybe it reminds some people that "everyone does it" is not a valid excuse...

[Fips]

Ofcourse I did it because I didn't want to lose my multi, thats why everybody is doing it. Nobody switches teams, because he just wants to play with his clanmates. I know you are a fair player and I must admit I never saw you doing it. But lets be honest, nearly everybody else is doing it, even the best and well known players. Some of your clanmates (won't tell names in this thread) are doing it too from time to time. Admins did nothing for several months when it really was abused heavilly by a clan we all know and now it is something that is not 100% ok but accepted by the majority of the community. As said before we all make some minor mistakes. If everything would be reported, the game wouldn't be fun or playable. I am sure you also didn't always respect the rules to 100% in the past? Have you never insulted someone because he behaved like an idiot, or teamhit a guy standing on the ladder, or pressed m because somebody hit you too often and it annoyed you? Never? Do you always switch to spectator when you are afk for 30 seconds, even when you have x5? Do you  really always want to get banned for this?
Think about it...

Aw crap, i just wrote a fucking long post, accidently pushed "back" and now it's gone, lol.

Okay, short version: First, just because many people are doing so, it does not make it right or acceptable.
Secondly, i was not aiming at you personally, so please don't take it personal, you were just unlucky. Although you have never gotten into this situation if just didnt changed the team.
Thirdly, i started doing this because GO, STR, DRZ, T and other clans started doing it again after some quiet time after the first ban-wave (When it got officially bannable) and admins did not care. Well, actually because there are no siege-admins that could care, but that's another topic.


Oh yeah, and stop accusing HRE of doing so. For now, we had 1 player that got banned for this and it was just after it officially got bannable, since then nobody did it. As long as there are no screenshots that prove those accusations, stop spreading bullshit ;)

[Erzengel]

Whats with you Marktplatz, never done something wrong? Perhaps you should be observed all the time while playing the game. I am sure that would be very funny for you... I like the HRE clan and I wouldn't say something if your clanmembers were never breaking the rules, but you are doing it sometimes too. Don't be arrogant and play world police, just because nobody reports every little mistake of you. That's bad behaviour!
Fix the door bug on the first round and nobody has to switch teams. Losing the first round because your internet connection isn't fast enough to join the attacking team before the rest isn't fair too.

@Fips

I don't take this personal. I know that things aren't ok because everybody is doing it, but there is a difference. Like said before admins ignored bypassing the teambalance for months, they did nearly nothing, even it was a much bigger problem than now. I think that it is just not fair to enforce the rules randomly. I even saw admins ignoring it (and even much worse things) while they were on the server. Do it always or never. Or atleast announce it before!


Ah, yeah come on... Don't always defend you clan. Several people stated that before. Better be glad that we don't always take screenshots.Your clanname doesn't make your members holy. You also have some trolls in your clan and you know it. Would have expected more from you...

[Fips]

The butthurt is strong with this one. visitors can't see pics , please register or login


No, srsly, i am tired of discussing this shit everytime i open a ban-request for this bulllshit. I am done here.

[Erzengel]

No, srsly, i am tired of discussing this shit everytime i open a ban-request for this bulllshit. I am done here.

Perhaps then you should just follow your own advice (http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,27226.0.html) and "Grow a pair"... an better waste your time playing this awesome game instead of reporting everybody.
And always remember: Dude, it's the internet, don't get offended by everything. ;P

[Falka]

But lets be honest, nearly everybody else is doing it, even the best and well known players. bla bla bla and now it is something that is not 100% ok but accepted by the majority of the community. bla bla bla If everything would be reported, the game wouldn't be fun or playable.

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[Erzengel]

Hm nice, a guy with HRE banner shooting several arrows at me without any reason... Hope that this is not an alt of one of your clanmembers...

http://imgur.com/mXhmB,MlCdR,c1DAA,LhayH#0 (4 screens)

[Moncho]

Hm nice, a guy with HRE banner shooting several arrows at me without any reason... Hope that this is not an alt of one of your clanmembers...

http://imgur.com/mXhmB,MlCdR,c1DAA,LhayH#0 (4 screens)

lol, I am not an expert at manipulating, and i am not in HRE, but wait...
the timer goes from 2:14 to 1:59, nothing weird, but wait, then it is 4:17! How strange. Also, is that a nomad bow with tatar arrows? as an archer, it takes more than 2 arrows to kill someone in a kuyak with it.
Plus, i cant see anywhere the message of "Warchief archer has teamwounded you, please press m if you think it was intentional"
Please dont be butthurt.

To admins/devs/donkeys/someone in charge: would lying and trying to get an innocent person banned be a cause for ban?