Armor & Weapon Proficiency Reduction

[Gafferjack]

A big thanks to WaltF4 for providing the formulas for all my data points.

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armor weight modified proficiency = base proficiency * (1 - 0.01 * effective armor weight)

and

effective armor weight = 3*head armor weight + body armor weight + leg armor weight + 2*hand armor weight - 7
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armor weight modified proficiency = base proficiency * (1 - 0.008 * effective armor weight)

and

effective armor weight = 3*head armor weight + body armor weight + leg armor weight + 2*hand armor weight - 7.5

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These equations show that the reduction in proficiency due to armor weight is now multiplicative with base proficiency and that you can wear 7.5 effective weight of armor before your proficiency is affected.

Other main points:
Crossbow WPF is reduced by armor. [Changed in 0.220/0.221 from no penalty]
Equipment that you carry other than armor does not reduce WPF. [Confirmed for .223]

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Using a 96 Accuracy, 70 Pierce Arbalest, I compiled a screenshot database of WPFs 81-133 while naked with nothing else equipped, like with my previous Throwing test. Agility was not constant during the time I was taking screenshots.

Start WPF: Head/Body/Legs/Hands Weight: End WPF

133: 4/29/3.8/2.3: <81
133: 4/29/3.8/0: <81
133: 4/29/0/0: 85
133: 1.8/29/2.5/1: 89
133: 0/29/3.8/2.3: 90
133: 1.8/28/1.8/0.5: 93
133: 3.5/23.5/0.8/0: 96
133: 0/29/0/2.3: 97
133: 3.5/18.5/0.8/0: 102
133: 0.3/23.5/0.8/2.3: 102
133: 2/18.5/2.5/0: 106
133: 1.8/15.5/1.8/2.3: 106
133: 2/15.5/3.5/0.5: 106
133: 1.8/15.5/1.8/0.5: 112
133: 2/13/3.5/0.5: 112
133: 2/13/3.8/0.5: 112
133: 4/5/2.5/1: 114
133: 3.5/5/2.5/1: 116
133: 4/2/3.5/1.3: 117
133: 1.8/5/3.5/2.3: 118
133: 3.5/1/3.5/0.5: 121
133: 2/9.5/0.8/0: 121
133: 4/0/3.5/0: 122
133: 4/0/3/0: 122
133: 2/0/3.5/0: 130
133: 2/0/3/0: 130
133: 0/2/3.5/1.3: 132
133: 0/5/2.5/0: 132
133: 2/0/0.8/0.5: 132
133: 0.3/0/0.8/2.3: 133
133: 0/4.5/0/1.3: 133
133: 0.3/5/0.3/0.5: 133

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The first number is my base WPF and the last number my modified WPF. Other numbers are armor weights.
I'm obtaining the modified WPF by screenshot comparison using Throwing Knives @ PT1. I have screenshots of WPF 50-98 stored away as a database.

98. 4 head 28 torso 3.8 leg 2.3 hand. 65
98. 0 head 28 torso 3.8 leg 2.3 hand. 75

98. 4 head 2 torso 3 leg 1 hand. 89

98. 4 head 28 torso 3 leg 1 hand. 68
98. 4 head 10 torso 3 leg 1 hand. 83
98. 0 head 10 torso 3 leg 1 hand. 92
98. 4 head 10 torso 0 leg 1 hand. 85
98. 4 head 10 torso 3 leg 0 hand. 84
98. 4 head 0 torso 3 leg 1 hand. 90

98. 4 head 10 torso 3.8 leg 2.3 hand. 80
98. 4 head 10 torso 3 leg 2.3 hand. 81

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98. 3.5 head 16.5 torso 0.8 leg 1.3 hand. 80
98. 0 head 16.5 torso 0.8 leg 1.3 hand. 89
98. 3.5 head 0 torso 0.8 leg 1.3 hand. 93
98. 3.5 head 16.5 torso 0 leg 1.3 hand. 81
98. 3.5 head 16.5 torso 0.8 leg 0 hand. 83

98. 1.8 head 16.5 torso 0.8 leg 1.3 hand. 85
98. 3.5 head 16.5 torso 2.5 leg 1.3 hand. 79
98. 3.5 head 9.5 torso 2.5 leg 1.3 hand. 85

98. 3.5 head 9.5 torso 2.5 leg 0.3 hand. 87
98. 1.8 head 9.5 torso 2.5 leg 0.3 hand. 90
98. 1.8 head 16.5 torso 2.5 leg 0.3 hand. 85

98. 0 head 16.5 torso 0.3 leg 0 hand. 91
98. 0 head 9.5 torso 2.5 leg 0 hand. 94
98. 0 head 8 torso 0 leg 0 hand. 97

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98. 0.5 head 5 torso 0 leg 0.3 hand. 98
98. 0.5 head 5 torso 0.8 leg 0 hand. 97
98. 1.8 head 2 torso 0 leg 0 hand. 97

[Count_RisArch]

Fantasticly helpfull, even in this early stage. Keep up the good work!

[Bothersome_Aldryk]

I look forward to your continued testing, Gaffer . This is useful stuff.

[Tears of Destiny]

Now this is just fantastic, well done, well done.
I look forward to reviewing more of your work.

[haxKingdom]

which is why 'molassesium forged' plate armor should cost about 1/4 as much.

[Vibe]

Brilliant

[Engine]

I'd like to buy you a mocha frappucino, sir.

[WaltF4]

Great work Gafferjack. Using your data, I have determined the functional relationship between base proficiency, weight modified proficiency, and armor weight:

armor weight modified proficiency = base proficiency * (1 - 0.0082 * effective armor weight)

and

effective armor weight = 3*head armor weight + body armor weight + leg armor weight + 2*hand armor weight - 7.7

I think we can safely assume that if the second equation would result in a negative value for effective armor weight, it would return an effective armor weight of 0 instead. The following plot was generated using your 11 data points plus a 0 effective armor weight point. This plot shows what fraction of your base proficiency your weight modified proficiency would be for a given effective armor weight.

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These equations show that the reduction in proficiency due to armor weight is now multiplicative with base proficiency and that you can wear 7.7 effective weight of armor before your proficiency is affected. The equation for effective armor weight appears to be very much like the previous version with head and hand armors effectively weighing more than the listed values.

[Kung Fu Jesus]

I think my head may explode. I'm bleeding out my nose a little from all the math.

[WaltF4]

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[Torp]

Great work Gafferjack. Using your data, I have determined the functional relationship between base proficiency, weight modified proficiency, and armor weight:

armor weight modified proficiency = base proficiency * (1 - 0.0082 * effective armor weight)

and

effective armor weight = 3*head armor weight + body armor weight + leg armor weight + 2*hand armor weight - 7.7

I think we can safely assume that if the second equation would result in a negative value for effective armor weight, it would return an effective armor weight of 0 instead. The following plot was generated using your 11 data points plus a 0 effective armor weight point. This plot shows what fraction of your base proficiency your weight modified proficiency would be for a given effective armor weight.

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These equations show that the reduction in proficiency due to armor weight is now multiplicative with base proficiency and that you can wear 7.7 effective weight of armor before your proficiency is affected. The equation for effective armor weight appears to be very much like the previous version with head and hand armors effectively weighing more than the listed values.

do you how any numbers on how much weight affects running speed?

[Gafferjack]

Updated the main post; working on getting some Archery data.

Thanks for adding that information, Walt; I was hoping someone would come along and help me out. I've added a few more data points if you felt like using them.

[Kafein]

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M61xXdVlP5o

On the topic : Thank you WaltX !

[Pinx0]

So weigth only affects WPF? And doesn't decrease speed? It'd make more sense...

[Gafferjack]

So weight only affects WPF? And doesn't decrease speed?

Only armor weight affects WPF, but you still have slower movement speed from all the weight that you carry. For example, carrying three Siege Ladders and a weapon while you have no armor on will not reduce your WPF, but you will travel much slower than without the ladders.