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Make creating a new way of gaining crafting skill a priority for a patch in the near future.

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Offline Lech

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Re: Petition for a new ATHW system
« Reply #15 on: March 05, 2012, 11:57:05 pm »
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I think current one is fine, it reward players who don't powerlevel their character and who stick to their equipment.

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Re: Petition for a new ATHW system
« Reply #16 on: March 06, 2012, 01:19:45 am »
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Unfortunately it doesn't Lech. I spent 6 weeks wearing the same shit playing for a 2-5 hours 5ish days a week and didn't get a tick. I started playing just after the ATHW system was introduce but when I started play strat 3 I didn't have any crafting to speak of. 5 months as a shielder and I didn't get points in crafting until Dec-Jan.

I did however get 6 crafting in arbs, I used them for a grand total of like 5 hours, maybe with no WPF. I figure in total I've had 13-18 crafting ticks, including ticks on alts. Its just... lame. This system doesn't give me a damn thing for "Hard work" its another psychological experiment by chadz for his PHD... Which I might add should be complete very soon.

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Re: Petition for a new ATHW system
« Reply #17 on: March 09, 2012, 08:37:43 am »
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Re: Petition for a new ATHW system
« Reply #18 on: March 09, 2012, 01:40:54 pm »
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Well, i have 75 in italian swords and i have my gear early each gen (on 6th lvl i have mail boots and armor, on 7th sword, on 10th helmet and later shield).

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Re: Petition for a new ATHW system
« Reply #19 on: March 09, 2012, 04:06:12 pm »
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Well, i have 75 in italian swords and i have my gear early each gen (on 6th lvl i have mail boots and armor, on 7th sword, on 10th helmet and later shield).
So you're saying you got ATHW a lot? That doesn't make it a good system, it just means you're lucky. Some people have gone multiple generations without ever getting it.
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Re: Petition for a new ATHW system
« Reply #20 on: March 09, 2012, 08:18:15 pm »
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So you're saying you got ATHW a lot? That doesn't make it a good system, it just means you're lucky. Some people have gone multiple generations without ever getting it.

It is somehow influenced by your in-game behavior (we just don't know exactly how), so i think those people should l2p or stop being aussie.

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Re: Petition for a new ATHW system
« Reply #21 on: March 10, 2012, 01:31:29 am »
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It is somehow influenced by your in-game behavior (we just don't know exactly how), so i think those people should l2p or stop being aussie.
They should l2p? Lolwut? Please, enlighten us. How do we get it more often? Since it's a secret we can't bloody "learn 2 play" to get it more. Stop being an idiot.
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Re: Petition for a new ATHW system
« Reply #22 on: March 10, 2012, 03:28:14 am »
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Lech there are Aussie players with 90+ in multiple +3s. I rolled the same gear for 2 gens, didn't change it at all and never got a tick. I've made sure to keep myself alive as long as possible.

Nearly every time I've gotten the tick I've had random junk on. When I purposefully set out to boost crafting in specific gear I basically failed to get ticks.

Your single example means nothing in the sea of people doing the same thing as you who are getting nowhere. If the system was fully based on player behavior by now we would have figured it out and all be making it redundant with our 100 skill.

Here is the list of crap that it doesn't seem to be dependent on.

K/D, wearing the same stuff all the time, build settings.

Now it could be but it sure as hell doesn't seem like its any of those or even all of them because I've seen the "rule" proven to many times for it stand up. Correlation isn't causation.

The system is a turd and it should be replaced.
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Re: Petition for a new ATHW system
« Reply #23 on: March 22, 2012, 01:33:51 am »
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Re: Petition for a new ATHW system
« Reply #24 on: March 22, 2012, 07:07:11 am »
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FIX IT  :lol:


IMHO a "Guaranteed Text" system, where you would be nearly guaranteed to get it either once, or twice a week... when you do not get it, your chance of getting it will increase perpetually, until you get it, at which point this new function would go on cooldown.

So, say you have a 1/50,000,000 chance to get chadztext every second, currently.  You'd get an additional 1/50,000,000 chance every second you don't get it, every 80 hours.


So you'd have:

1/50,000,000
1/25,000,000
1/16,666,666
1/12,500,000
1/10,000,000
1/  8,333,333
~~(60 sec)~~
1/     833,333
~~(2 mins)~~
1/     416,666

ETC.  until you get it, when it would return to 1/50,000,000 chance per sec for the next 80 hours.  Using that system you'd almost be assured to get it within an hour of play.  I think that would also add incentive for people to play cRPG semi-regularly, especially those who enjoy Strategus.

*E: and using this "Guaranteed Text" at the above 2/week it would still take 49 weeks to reach 99 craft skill, assuming your gear loadout stays the same.  My average is about two per month, though I got the majority of all my text within the span of a week or so.  Personally I would still rather see an entirely different system.
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Re: Petition for a new ATHW system
« Reply #25 on: March 22, 2012, 09:34:48 am »
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I think your idea RibaldRon is a good one at least as a stop gap measure for the el tardo system we have atm.

But I personally prefer the idea of an "xp" based system where items you don't have selected degrade at the same rate as the ones you do have selected, and the degradation is entirely limited to playing and improving the selected items.

Also I want to be able to donate money to move my fraking crafting skill points! Make that lottery :/ I will buy a ticket!
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Re: Petition for a new ATHW system
« Reply #26 on: March 24, 2012, 07:31:12 am »
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Re: Petition for a new ATHW system
« Reply #27 on: March 25, 2012, 08:11:36 am »
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NEW ATHW! LET YOUR VOICE BE HEARD!

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Re: Petition for a new ATHW system
« Reply #28 on: April 07, 2012, 04:51:13 am »
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Why I do believe a bump is in order!
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Re: Petition for a new ATHW system
« Reply #29 on: April 07, 2012, 05:15:20 am »
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This system needs to be updated
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