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Re: New Market Rule
« Reply #75 on: February 25, 2012, 10:09:02 pm »
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People used scripts? Now thats just lame. It was not hard to hit refresh in-between rounds.
yeah. Somnium for one used one. Bought out my +3 mail mittens the day before this rule was implemented. The person who loomed it was on vent with me and counted down when he was placing it so i could start spamming refresh to buy it quick. I never even saw the item go up while spamming refresh on a +3 mail mitten search.

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Re: New Market Rule
« Reply #76 on: February 25, 2012, 10:16:50 pm »
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My morningstar +3 was bought by Somnium/DarkOmen immediately.
I saw my mistake directly after setting up the offer. So I tried to delete it a few seconds after creating... too late.

Assumed he used a script, was the action of Somnium/DarkOmen illegal independently of the new rule?

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Re: New Market Rule
« Reply #77 on: February 25, 2012, 10:43:19 pm »
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My morningstar +3 was bought by Somnium/DarkOmen immediately.
I saw my mistake directly after setting up the offer. So I tried to delete it a few seconds after creating... too late.

Assumed he used a script, was the action of Somnium/DarkOmen illegal independently of the new rule?

Actually IIRC scripting was a big no-no on the marketplace anyway, imo should be put under the same class as autoblock (same theory, having a script automate stuff for you for your own gain)
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Re: New Market Rule
« Reply #78 on: February 25, 2012, 10:46:14 pm »
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Corwin we are speaking about people writting 150k instead of 1500k
Its not about complaining because someone sold something 290 k whereas he could sell it 360k. This is marketting that no rule should apply to that. You are a good trader or your are not.
What Meow want to rule is people exploiting the fact that other people can make stupid error like forgetting a zero, or selling for 10 k gold a +1 heirloom because they forget to put which heirloom they wanted in exchange

What we are speaking off, at least this is how I understand the intention of developers, is to create a system that works. With new market options come new possibilities for abuse. There is a possibility that all the cases wont be as clear cut as they use to be.

I suggested this in order to preserve some security in those cases, so that people could be sure that their transactions are secure after certain amount of time has passed and to prevent those simple "change of heart" complaints. Anyway, I am sure that it can't hurt.

And for the record, I never scammed anybody, never bought extra cheap items and this suggestion has nothing to do with me personally.
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Re: New Market Rule
« Reply #79 on: February 26, 2012, 09:29:32 am »
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The new rule is nothing I care much about, BUT:

Ther sould be a protected mode to make deals between two specific players.

About a week ago, I set a special offer (cheap), with an unpopular loomed weapon - and it was bought in the instant I set the offer. I am not shure if someone could react this fast. So the script story seems not out of hands for me.

So there is no safe way to make deals between friends - becouse of fast buyers (maybe script, maybe not).

What about an option that makes the deal protected - so the seller has the possiblity to confirm the transfer or decline it and wait for another buyer. This way one could safely trade with friends.

Just a proposal to throw in.

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Re: New Market Rule
« Reply #80 on: February 26, 2012, 09:34:15 am »
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The new rule is nothing I care much about, BUT:

Ther sould be a protected mode to make deals between two specific players.

About a week ago, I set a special offer (cheap), with an unpopular loomed weapon - and it was bought in the instant I set the offer. I am not shure if someone could react this fast. So the script story seems not out of hands for me.

So there is no safe way to make deals between friends - becouse of fast buyers (maybe script, maybe not).

What about an option that makes the deal protected - so the seller has the possiblity to confirm the transfer or decline it and wait for another buyer. This way one could safely trade with friends.

Just a proposal to throw in.

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Incorrect. Just conduct two trades using stones to guard against marketplace snipers.
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Re: New Market Rule
« Reply #81 on: February 26, 2012, 11:26:01 am »
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Incorrect. Just conduct two trades using stones to guard against marketplace snipers.


This is how people get really scammed, for example while "buying" an heirloom point for that +2 armor.

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Re: New Market Rule
« Reply #82 on: February 26, 2012, 12:15:49 pm »
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No need for stones anymore, just offer to buy for x gold. Never, ever sell.
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Re: New Market Rule
« Reply #83 on: February 26, 2012, 12:15:56 pm »
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My morningstar +3 was bought by Somnium/DarkOmen immediately.
I saw my mistake directly after setting up the offer. So I tried to delete it a few seconds after creating... too late.

Assumed he used a script, was the action of Somnium/DarkOmen illegal independently of the new rule?
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Re: New Market Rule
« Reply #84 on: February 26, 2012, 01:33:21 pm »
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This is how people get really scammed, for example while "buying" an heirloom point for that +2 armor.

Obviously taken out of context. I was referring to a trade between two people who know each other, and want to guard against random marketplace snipers.

And yes, you can just do buy offers now >.>
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Re: New Market Rule
« Reply #85 on: February 26, 2012, 02:23:25 pm »
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We had to put this rule in place since lately some players decided that their own gain is more important than the community and we will make sure they change their mind about that.

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Re: New Market Rule
« Reply #86 on: March 02, 2012, 04:11:37 pm »
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Bjúúúúúúrd not so gud at reading comprehension? Check the OP again.

Ah yes...

From now on...

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Re: New Market Rule
« Reply #87 on: March 02, 2012, 09:30:23 pm »
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This is great news! Thank you!

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Re: New Market Rule
« Reply #88 on: March 02, 2012, 11:56:38 pm »
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kinda sad that you have to run a nanny state for careless people

What you SHOULD be doing is improving the marketplace with STANDARD features such as; denominator separators like , for NA . for EU and a notification system that warns you if you are selling an item for say 10-15% below the norm average recorded price

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Re: New Market Rule
« Reply #89 on: March 03, 2012, 12:17:39 am »
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...such as; denominator separators like , for NA ....

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