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[SirProto]

But it just doesn't feel as good as the build up to your next loom

[SirProto]

Retiring 16 times so you can reach maximum xp bonus would give you 11,200,000 gold of loom worth + at least 1,600,000 gold earned trough generations which is around 13 million of gold. That should be enough for 10 +3 items.

Looming your items without selling looms would give you around 5 +3 items of your choice.

What is better?

The selling loom points way is probably more efficient but I'd just feel like I earnt the items more if I loomed them myself 

[dodnet]

One drawback: If you want something that no one sells, you gain... nothing.

[Cosmos_Shielder]

There is also a drawback if you want to be high level like 33 or 35, but that's not what I'm talking about here. BTW, you can always find something if you have enough gold. Everything sells.

Yes you can. But you ll need to buy and heirloom point for that

[Spawny]

Some items are VERY hard to find and if you find someone who has it, it will take a lot more than 1.5 or 1.6 mil gold to convince them to sell it.

What do you need 9 +3 items for anyway?

[Kafein]

There is also a drawback if you want to be high level like 33 or 35, but that's not what I'm talking about here. BTW, you can always find something if you have enough gold. Everything sells.

Nope. There aren't that many players and heirloom point sellers so as to make one able to buy anything, even in the "not that uncommon" range. Sure you can find plenty of kuyaks. The model of selling looms and buying what you need with the money works, but it has it's limits. If you have self-esteem (that is, you are not part of the kuyak clone army), use throwing weapons, shields or need specific armor parts, you are running into problems. Also, +3 items are the only interesting ones (you'll have trouble selling +1 and +2). And very logically, they have the greatest price per heirloom point ratio. So it's interesting to buy +3 items because otherwise you are either wasting your heirloom points upgrading what you bought, or your money by selling them probably cheaper (or after waiting for too long with your money blocked). But it's also the ones you'll be making the least profit out of the point selling/object buying cycle with.

[Polobow]

Thing is, nobody is selling a elder's torch, so why bother selling my loompoints? Once i'm gen 4 i got +3 torch.

[Lizard_man]

As other people have stated, there's just some things that knowone looms, and maybe that's something you would want. Of course it's worth doing for other looms and such...

[buba]

Lamellar vest comes to mind, also some horses like rouncey, steppe horse, desert horse etc etc are hard to find.
And if they are on the market there ver expensive.

[Spawny]

I'd love to have an elder's long dagger, but they're hard to find too.

[Lizard_man]

Same with the pigface klappvisor. Haven't seen one on the market, and if there was one on the market. I imagen it would be very expensive...

[Polobow]

I'd love to have an elder's long dagger, but they're hard to find too.

Why? Stab spammer?

[Grumbs]

I wonder how sustainable this is. It seems loom points have gone up from 400-500k to 600k+ in only a few months. Assuming people who buy looms then sell their items for a profit, its no wonder prices hike up. If you buy a +1 for ~400k then buy 2 looms for 600k you only have to sell over 1.6mil to make a profit. Thinking of it like that, is it not worth just buying a +1 then looming it yourself to +3 rather than selling loom points? That way you get what you want and don't have to deal with anyone else, and the price of stuff doesn't keep going up

[Tzar]

As more and more people stop retiring for either being able to participate in strat or maybe they just got what they need prices of the looms will go up and thats what your seeing no big mystery