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Xbow, xbow, fashion xbow
« on: March 02, 2011, 01:43:14 pm »
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Xbow, xbow, fashion xbow
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buff dedicated xbowers, nerf random xbowers
« Last Edit: March 02, 2011, 01:46:06 pm by Olwen »

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Re: Xbow, xbow, fashion xbow
« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2011, 01:47:34 pm »
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you don't say

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Re: Xbow, xbow, fashion xbow
« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2011, 02:21:13 pm »
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Yes please. Made the accuracy curve of wpf steeper, increase the price, something ^^

EDIT: I don't there is any need to buff dedicated crossbowmen. Feels ok to me, I can complain only about the accuracy really, but that's just me nit-picking.
« Last Edit: March 02, 2011, 02:31:30 pm by Nemeth »

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Re: Xbow, xbow, fashion xbow
« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2011, 03:50:17 pm »
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increase the price

No, just no! Dedicated xbowers have it tough enough already. Increasing the price would be the last nail in the coffin.

Made the accuracy curve of wpf steeper

Sounds a lot better.
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Re: Xbow, xbow, fashion xbow
« Reply #4 on: March 02, 2011, 03:58:03 pm »
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power draw is only solution,  it would help dedicate ppl, and would separate those who have it just in case

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Re: Xbow, xbow, fashion xbow
« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2011, 04:04:40 pm »
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What exactly is wrong with this? Crossbows are very expensive and someone who isn't dedicated crossbowman will shoot how often per round, 1-2 times?
You can kill plenty people with melee weapon even with zero proficiency, so what does that mean, that melee weapons should be useless unless you have 150 proficiency?


I very rarely see non dedicated crossbowmen, and don't see why this is a problem.
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Re: Xbow, xbow, fashion xbow
« Reply #6 on: March 02, 2011, 04:07:44 pm »
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You can kill plenty people with melee weapon even with zero proficiency, so what does that mean, that melee weapons should be useless unless you have 150 proficiency?

Except melee weapons need an investment in Power Strike.

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Re: Xbow, xbow, fashion xbow
« Reply #7 on: March 02, 2011, 04:13:39 pm »
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I once killed 2 light armored guys with 0 wpf and 0 power strike falchion.
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Re: Xbow, xbow, fashion xbow
« Reply #8 on: March 02, 2011, 04:16:28 pm »
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Except melee weapons need an investment in Power Strike.

Melee weapons without PS and proficiency are about as useful as xbow without proficiency. You can still kill with them.
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Re: Xbow, xbow, fashion xbow
« Reply #9 on: March 02, 2011, 04:34:49 pm »
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A melee weapon that had the same damage as a Sniper Crossbow, but also the same speed, would be pretty entertaining.

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Re: Xbow, xbow, fashion xbow
« Reply #10 on: March 02, 2011, 04:46:09 pm »
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1 WPF xbow hasn't been nerfed at all, the only reason everybody doesn't use a xbow sidearm like pre-patch is the upkeep.

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Re: Xbow, xbow, fashion xbow
« Reply #11 on: March 02, 2011, 04:50:40 pm »
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Wait upkeep did its job? So is it safe to unnerf this poor weapon. I feel like the siege xbow should be the only 1 shotting ranged weapon as it reloads so balls ass slow atleast compared to jarids and lances once your opponent fires you know you getting your shot at him where as the thrower is just gunna chuck any number between 1-12 lances at you -.-

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Re: Xbow, xbow, fashion xbow
« Reply #12 on: March 02, 2011, 05:07:20 pm »
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No, just no! Dedicated xbowers have it tough enough already. Increasing the price would be the last nail in the coffin.

I am dedicated xbower, I could live with 2-4k increase in cost. If it would make me lose money, I'd just switch to cheaper melee weapon.

Melee weapons without PS and proficiency are about as useful as xbow without proficiency. You can still kill with them.

That's a bullshit and you know it.

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Re: Xbow, xbow, fashion xbow
« Reply #13 on: March 02, 2011, 05:25:43 pm »
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your opponent fires you know you getting your shot at him where as the thrower is just gunna chuck any number between 1-12 lances at you -.-
Yea sure, most of the time you won't even see him before you are dead or he will be reloading safely behind a wall while his team mate fight, that's why i much prefer thrower spam at least he's standing a few meter away from you and he's out there fighting with his team. 

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Re: Xbow, xbow, fashion xbow
« Reply #14 on: March 02, 2011, 05:31:27 pm »
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That's a bullshit and you know it.

I doubt that someone with Great Long Bardiche couldn't make more kills in such situation than someone with siege crossbow. Siege crossbow as a sidearm is technically one-shot weapon. If you shoot more times with it per round, you're not able to participate in infantry charge and coordinate with your fellow teammates.

The point is that with current upkeep and throwing as good as it is, there is little reason to have 20,000-worth xbow as a one-use weapon. 4 skill points is nothing, and with that you can have like 8 axes you can throw around, and they will aid your infantry build much more than one-shot xbow. These xbows made sense when there was no upkeep, when they deal more damage, and everyone was running in plate.
« Last Edit: March 02, 2011, 05:35:00 pm by Tai Feng »
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