Dagger and Long Dagger

[BlindGuy]

Please dude, do not make your «funny posts» in realism threads.

Its true, I forgot we are playing a Alpinisn simulation...

[Gravoth_iii]

Hammer has shorter reach than the long dagger, but can be used to block. I dont see why you shouldnt be able to block with the long dagger if you can with the hammer :/

[BlindGuy]

realtive speeds and dmg is why
 if long dagger had a rightclick block then it would be immense. Think about what you write

[FRANK_THE_TANK]

They are actually good as they are. There is a player in Australia called Hashlingflasher... I think its been a while since I saw the old flash on. Any way he has a +3 Long Dagger and he used to pwn many a player, even some very good players used to get killed by him as he came flying out a bush slashing your face to ribbons.

He was quiet adept at chambering as well, which is a skill you really do need if you are using a weapon that doesn't block.

[BlindGuy]

They are actually good as they are. There is a player in Australia called Hashlingflasher... I think its been a while since I saw the old flash on. Any way he has a +3 Long Dagger and he used to pwn many a player, even some very good players used to get killed by him as he came flying out a bush slashing your face to ribbons.

He was quiet adept at chambering as well, which is a skill you really do need if you are using a weapon that doesn't block.

meh, sounds like a fashionista tbh: I heirloomed a Dagger to +3 many ages ago. Its boss. long dagger is OP. Real men use just dagger.

[Casimir]

long dagger is OP. Real men use just dagger.

This is correct.

[FRANK_THE_TANK]

Nah +3 dagger is a turd with my ping. I need the length.

[Mr. Hannibal]

Since i read only the first half of page 1,i don't think that the backstab of the dagger should be implemented,just because imagine if a 13 athletics player swoops around the main fight,and basically just kills off the enemies from the behind,i don't think,that would be fair,or imagine a 2 v 1,and one of the 2 players was using a dagger,and the other one would be using,let's say a shield + spamitar, the guy would have no chance,if the dagger dude would be high ath and would be a decent chamberblocker.

About the blocking,on my crossbowman alt i use the long dagger just because it's really fun to chamber,especially with my high athletics,i can easily chamber 2 hits while backpedalling, turn around and run away.

[BlindGuy]

even with 13 athletics, you cannot run around a guy faster than he can turn his mouse: Once you are behind a guy who isnt looking, it doesnt matter whether you got there with 13 athletics or 3, your still behind him.

[Christo]

Rage_gey, you underestimate awareness in this game.

It's damn hard to sneak up on someone as infantry, especially in a battle map.

[Logen]

Yeah sure 

[engurrand]

Let me put this simple...

In a real melee fight you really only get one block before it's grapple time....

It is not hard to block with a small weapon... the trick is to get close to them, use your weapon to catch theirs and then you grab their arm or wrist and then you stab them with your now free weapon hand. I would say that in knighted combat (armored knight vrs armored knight) daggers and maces / picks probably got the most kills.. here is an example of what i mean. A bunch of armored knights fight (on foot, which i know was rare) for a good 30 minuets, becoming tired from moving around. rather then taking direct blows to their body and dying, the battle focus was to knock them down or restrain them in such a way that the vital parts could be exposed... or remove their weapon, or capture them. If you are tired, in armor, and a fresh very lightly armored dude comes at  you with other guys, parries one of your blows (if you even get a chance) and then grapples your plate restricted ass and trips you to the ground, how hard do you think it will be for him to stab a dagger into your neck through your armor?

[TaM1PiCh]

+1111

[JennaHaze]

In the ancient rome hoplomachus got a dagger. When they drop their spear they were fighting with their daggers and killing people. But we can't kill anybody with our daggers in c-rpg

[BlindGuy]

In the ancient rome hoplomachus got a dagger. When they drop their spear they were fighting with their daggers and killing people. But we can't kill anybody with our daggers in c-rpg

1/ Necro posting.

2/ Speak for yourself, a measurable % of crpg population carry daggers, sometimes to win a shielder fight, or needed to stab annoying peasants to death.