NERF INFANTRY

[Meow]

I think from here on I'll keep this saved as proof that all of Joker's archery comments are, as most of us already thought, useless unfounded comments by a pike man that uses low armor

Now offence intended, from now on I just wont read his longgggggg comments

Thank you meow! Long live the data base backups!

It must be a glitch. Clearly he kept a positive ratio for about 2 days. Meaning he averaged 2 kills a day before dying 4 times in a row.

Possible he had other archer chars, this was just the only deleted gen2 STF char that exactly fit his description and I found it to be a bit too much of a coincident.
Also makes me a bit sad since I thought he was basing his info on actual playing multiple days with that char...
I mean it's not exactly a lie saying " I was able to keep up a positive ratio most of the time for about a few days." because since that day he actually was able to keep a 1:1 ratio

Meow had STR heavy polearm build with lots of armor and IF. He's also from Germany which means he has good ping. With such build you need to block a little bit and rest of the time you can spam attack mindlessly and you'll do fine.

It's amazing how you completely ignore what builds I actually had and just keep claiming that I only used STR builds all the time
That's like me saying you only use strength builds!

But it's fine, I already pointed out that your ideal game would be everyone at the same speed using 2h swords and taking exactly as many hits as everyone else.

Ain't gonna happen though, dream on.

[XyNox]

This mod is kinda like the 3. Reich.

Devs are einstein and his Henchmen.
Their goal is to wipe the archer race off the face of all battlegrounds once and for all.

Inf are chocolate chip cookies while cav being the Waffen SS.
They are engaging their enemies with libel and slander as well as some heavy QQ support.

Archers are the resistance fighters trying to liberate their brothers from the evil regimes grasp.

[Vieuxcrotter]

I don't know what game you're playing but my shield already disintegrates whenever anyone touches it.

Oh. You meant the other way around. My bad.

Hahaha yes

[Gurnisson]

Keep getting two-shot by archers that are faster than me. 20 agi, 6 ath, 21 str, 5 IF. 50 body armour. Good thing that archery is 'viable'

[Old_Sir_Agor]

Possible he had other archer chars, this was just the only deleted gen2 STF char that exactly fit his description and I found it to be a bit too much of a coincident.
Also makes me a bit sad since I thought he was basing his info on actual playing multiple days with that char...
I mean it's not exactly a lie saying " I was able to keep up a positive ratio most of the time for about a few days." because since that day he actually was able to keep a 1:1 ratio

It's amazing how you completely ignore what builds I actually had and just keep claiming that I only used STR builds all the time
That's like me saying you only use strength builds!

But it's fine, I already pointed out that your ideal game would be everyone at the same speed using 2h swords and taking exactly as many hits as everyone else.

Ain't gonna happen though, dream on.

Meow my king, how i see the only 1 long time melee player, who decided to be archer 1 gen, he suck like hell ofc , but he tried this out, respect.

[_Tak_]

Cav and Ranged got badly nerf, it's time to nerf Infantry to make everything balance

[Leshma]

I'd be an archer if I didn't have to pay nearly 50 million XP for it.

[Meow]

Fair enough, that's a good excuse not to try it.

[Cup1d]

I'd be an archer if I didn't have to pay nearly 50 million XP for it.

Just imagine...

Level 33 (35 569 612 xp)
Strength: 15
Agility: 27
Hit points: 50
Skills to attributes: 8
Ironflesh: 0
Power Strike: 5
Shield: 0
Athletics: 8
Riding: 0
Horse Archery: 0
Power Draw: 5
Power Throw: 0
Weapon Master: 8
One Handed: 1
Two Handed: 95
Polearm: 1
Archery: 160
Crossbow: 1
Throwing: 1

longsword, hornbow, bodkins


or this

Level 33 (35 569 612 xp)
Strength: 21
Agility: 21
Hit points: 56
Skills to attributes: 8
Ironflesh: 0
Power Strike: 7
Shield: 0
Athletics: 7
Riding: 0
Horse Archery: 0
Power Draw: 5
Power Throw: 0
Weapon Master: 7
One Handed: 1
Two Handed: 95
Polearm: 1
Archery: 150
Crossbow: 1
Throwing: 1

Mallet, hornbow, bodkins.

Anyway your build is boring. All can block you, cavalry can couche you, pikemans always put out your eye, crushers crush you... etc...

[Rumblood]

Just imagine...

Level 33 (35 569 612 xp)
Strength: 15
Agility: 27
Hit points: 50
Skills to attributes: 8
Ironflesh: 0
Power Strike: 5
Shield: 0
Athletics: 8
Riding: 0
Horse Archery: 0
Power Draw: 5
Power Throw: 0
Weapon Master: 8
One Handed: 1
Two Handed: 95
Polearm: 1
Archery: 160
Crossbow: 1
Throwing: 1

longsword, hornbow, bodkins


or this

Level 33 (35 569 612 xp)
Strength: 21
Agility: 21
Hit points: 56
Skills to attributes: 8
Ironflesh: 0
Power Strike: 7
Shield: 0
Athletics: 7
Riding: 0
Horse Archery: 0
Power Draw: 5
Power Throw: 0
Weapon Master: 7
One Handed: 1
Two Handed: 95
Polearm: 1
Archery: 150
Crossbow: 1
Throwing: 1

Mallet, hornbow, bodkins.

Anyway your build is boring. All can block you, cavalry can couche you, pikemans always put out your eye, crushers crush you... etc...

Wow, he will really be tearing it up with those 15 (17 MW) arrows!

Psst....Archers carry quivers. That build is a 2 Hander with an anti-Cav option if needed.

[Fluffy_Muffin]

I think ranged should be buffed, they do laughable damage atm

[Rage_Guy]

yea,with my 41 body armor average arrow does ~10% damage

[Tzar]

I think ranged should be buffed, they do laughable damage atm

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[rustyspoon]

I think ranged should be buffed, they do laughable damage atm

Using an 18/18 build with 6 IF and wearing 55 body armor I've been killed with as little as 2 arrows and as many as 6. I'm sure that some of those 6 were probably limb shots too, which reduced damage.

I think that ranged is in a good spot damage-wise currently. A MW Arbalest with MW steel bolts takes about 95% of my health. I still get 1-shot when shot in the head with a bow. Throwing weapons usually take 1/3 to 1/2 my health.

In comparison I average about 4 hits to kill someone in medium armor with my MW 1-hander.

Seems pretty balanced.

[Gurnisson]

I was one-shot today with 18 strength, 40 body armour and full health from an arrow. I know, no ironflesh at all, but one-shot in that armour with that strength from an arrow? That's bullshit