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Is (Pole)stun same as native?
« on: February 14, 2012, 05:39:38 pm »
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Anyone know the answer for CRPG?

ie in Native you can only be stunned once in quick succession so block twice no stun, probably in my head but seem to be getting repeat stunned?


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Re: Is (Pole)stun same as native?
« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2012, 06:40:11 pm »
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you are getting stunned every time
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Re: Is (Pole)stun same as native?
« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2012, 06:43:44 pm »
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As far as I know in both native and crpg there is a variable that prevents you from getting stunned while already stunned. You don't always get stunned on the first hit though, so you may be blocking twice for no reason only to get stunned on the second hit and then fail when you try to swing. Gotta test the swing every time.

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Re: Is (Pole)stun same as native?
« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2012, 06:50:12 pm »
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Anyone know the answer for CRPG?

ie in Native you can only be stunned once in quick succession so block twice no stun, probably in my head but seem to be getting repeat stunned?

To my knowledge, stun is the same in both. Just with the ability to customize wpf, you get faster weapon times, etc. I do believe i've heard that pole stun is a game mechanic and only works on certain items. But This is all speculation/remembering and I could easily have it wrong/backwards.
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Re: Is (Pole)stun same as native?
« Reply #4 on: February 14, 2012, 06:52:13 pm »
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Dunno, but tested several times to stunlock people to death with a shortened spear and only 140 wpf (while leveling some previous gens) and the only thing stopping me from doing it some times was the "wiff/bounce" factor on armored players.  :rolleyes:

Edit: Weapons with knockdown have no "polestagger", if I'm not mistaken.

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Re: Is (Pole)stun same as native?
« Reply #5 on: February 14, 2012, 06:58:13 pm »
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Edit: Weapons with knockdown have no "polestagger", if I'm not mistaken.

Ah yea, that's it! I remember there being an exclusion!
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Re: Is (Pole)stun same as native?
« Reply #6 on: February 14, 2012, 08:14:42 pm »
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Are you talking about block stun or polestagger, woody?

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Re: Is (Pole)stun same as native?
« Reply #7 on: February 14, 2012, 08:17:17 pm »
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Probably the stagger.
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Re: Is (Pole)stun same as native?
« Reply #8 on: February 14, 2012, 08:20:17 pm »
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I think he means blockstun, but for clarification:

Woody, do you mean the effect when you block a heavy weapon with a light one and get stunned, or when you get struck by a polearm and fail to block it that it can cause you to stagger for a moment?

AFAIK you can be staggered multiple times in a row, but not stunned multiple times in a row.
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Re: Is (Pole)stun same as native?
« Reply #9 on: February 14, 2012, 08:50:49 pm »
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Thanks for responses.

I mean when hit by heavy weapon not just poles, in native a charged morningstar will do sometimes, you can be slowed in a counter attack.

So its where a hold pole/heavy weapon whacks you, block, whacks again and when you try and counter after 2 successful blocks still delayed.

Not talking about when you are hit without blocking.

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Re: Is (Pole)stun same as native?
« Reply #10 on: February 14, 2012, 10:21:25 pm »
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btw Woody are you Woody (the Woodleader) from youtube? The german commentary guy

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Re: Is (Pole)stun same as native?
« Reply #11 on: February 14, 2012, 11:58:04 pm »
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polestagger is retarded out of ballance, poles already have the damage stats and the range and the cav rearing, this stun ist tottaly bs
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Re: Is (Pole)stun same as native?
« Reply #12 on: February 15, 2012, 06:32:48 am »
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polestagger is retarded out of ballance, poles already have the damage stats and the range and the cav rearing, this stun ist tottaly bs

Some polearms kind of need it, though there needs to be a delay before you can be staggered again, and all high LR swing damage weapons need it removed. (IMO at least)
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