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Do you agree with this suggestion? [Please note that anything apart from direct "No" option means "I agree"]

I really love it.
I like it.
I can live with your changes... ... but they might be more balanced.
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A little buff for Scottish Sword [Poll included]
« on: February 13, 2012, 06:39:49 pm »
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Hi guys!

Today I noticed that Scottish Sword isn't used at all on the battlefield, even though it is quite a good weapon. Why?

Scottish Sword
weapon length: 80
weight: 1
difficulty: 7
speed rating: 103
weapon length: 80
thrust damage: 27 pierce
swing damage: 27 cut
slots: 1
4,867

Scottish Sword isn't used too much cause it is short - due to that fact, it is any good only with really high athletics, and yet there are better options to go with 9 str aka Katana. It isn't used by low low low str characters either, because it requires 7 str which requires converting skillpoints just to get a weapon and thus smashing the build - you can't build 11 athletics 10 weapon master "irunfastistabfast" character with 7 str.

How do I think it may be solved?

A reasonable ratio of buffs and nerfs to Scottish Sword.

Here's my idea how stats should be changed for that weapon to make it at least a bit more popular:

Scottish Sword
weight: 1
difficulty: 6 -1
speed rating: 103
weapon length: 80
thrust damage: 28 pierce +1
swing damage: 27 cut
slots: 1
cost: 5,617 +750


Blue - unchanged
Green - buffed
Red - nerfed

That would make using the Scottish Sword more appealing cause of low requirements and nice pierce, encouraging more people to use this weapon.



That would be all guys.

I hope you don't mind those changes in the worst scenario and love them in the best one.

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Remember - be nice! If you don't mind it, don't bombard the thread by voting "No".
« Last Edit: February 13, 2012, 07:37:26 pm by Dravic »

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Just make Wakizashi 0 slot. I miss weaboo likers with nodachi, katana and wakizashi combo.

anyway, with 70 weapon length this weapon is good for seppuku only.

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Yes, that is great idea.

But then the price is too high to be useful for crossbowmen or longbowmen... Might be bad, might be good. ;)

If any dev is willing to answer this thread: please include your thought about 0 slot for Wakizashi!

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cmon, this is «orient goods» tax.

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I don't mind such tax unless it goes along the quality. And in case of Wakizashi it was simply 7k wasted - no matter your build, the dmg was simply wrong compared to the length and price.


I understand 104 speed is a lot, but bouncing isn't fun even if it happens more often (cause you hit more often ;) )

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« Last Edit: February 13, 2012, 06:57:26 pm by Dravic »

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It is extremely old news that anything fancy (noble outfits or dresses, or anything gilded such as those two hourglass gauntlets) or "exotic" (such as the japanese items) are overpriced on purpose to make them more rare, and is not subject to change.

It is a matter of if you are willing to pay the extra gold for an item that fits a special niche, but is hardly "crucial" compared to other items on remaining competitive.
« Last Edit: February 13, 2012, 07:03:23 pm by Tears of Destiny »
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Yet Wakizashi is just bad.

They could at least make Wakizashi 0 slot. Really. If style is so "important" to devs that they "reward" people who want to use stylish stuff with more upkeep, they should think of it before. 0 slot Wakizashi would do exactly what they want - useless fancy looking weapon to pay more upkeep. yay!


Oh and btw i still think Scottish Sword should have lowered difficulty. It isn't used more than like once per 1000 characters (they may show more than once ;p) I see.

It looks great. Heck, if they lowered the difficulty to 6, I would make a dedicated "Scottish dueler" character to use that sword. Agi dueler, to set things clear.
« Last Edit: February 13, 2012, 07:10:00 pm by Dravic »

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Yet Wakizashi is just bad.

They could at least make Wakizashi 0 slot. Really. If style is so "important" to devs that they demand people who want to use stylish stuff with more upkeep, they should think of it before. 0 slot Wakizashi would do exactly what they want - useless fancy looking weapon to pay more upkeep. yay!

0 slot would be utterly broken as the vast majority of 2 slot archers or crossbowmen would then use it as it is so blatently more powerful then any other 0 slot weapon.
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Let's make things clear.

The poll is only about the Opening Post, and 0 slot for Wakizashi is NOT part of OP.

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The original post would make the scottish sword overpriced compared to other one handers.
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Re: Reduce some Scottish Sword and Wakizashi love/hate ratio. [Poll included]
« Reply #10 on: February 13, 2012, 07:16:50 pm »
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Yeah, now that you pointed Wakizashi won't be changed, the price is too high.

Would be changing OP (editing) and resetting poll OK? I don't think so, but it should be if I want to get "correct" feedback.


EDIT Poll reset, OP changed, Topic changed.
« Last Edit: February 13, 2012, 07:37:46 pm by Dravic »

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Re: A little buff for Scottish Sword [Poll included]
« Reply #11 on: February 13, 2012, 07:37:27 pm »
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+1 very good idea, i saw 1 player use the sword on rage ball today :D

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Re: A little buff for Scottish Sword [Poll included]
« Reply #12 on: February 13, 2012, 07:49:29 pm »
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Would just like to point out another "stat" this weapon has: it's god damn hard to see this thing! It's lightly colored and extremely thin. The shortness just further makes it harder to see.

Maybe it's just me, but I can't block this thing for the life of me.
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Re: A little buff for Scottish Sword [Poll included]
« Reply #13 on: February 13, 2012, 08:26:48 pm »
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That doesn't change the fact it isn't used. At all.

I mean, really, I would make a 6str/33agi character just to use this weapon - but it is not possible. You need to forget about 2 points in WM to do it... Which decreases WPF too much.

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Re: A little buff for Scottish Sword [Poll included]
« Reply #14 on: February 13, 2012, 08:46:31 pm »
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I think the -1 on difficulty would be a really nice change, but other than that, I wouldnt change anything.
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