Can somebody pls stop this madness?

[Fips]

heres an idea... get better... I bet one saulcanner or kaoklai or someone like that could take the whole HRE team on...btw randomers have the right to use any banner they want
Fact remain if there are 60 people its going to be close to a 30v30 and thats fair teams... if your losing then get better

U must be new to siege.

[Tears of Destiny]

heres an idea... get better... I bet one saulcanner or kaoklai or someone like that could take the whole HRE team on...btw randomers have the right to use any banner they want
Fact remain if there are 60 people its going to be close to a 30v30 and thats fair teams... if your losing then get better

Bold words for someone unfamiliar with the HRE.

[Have_At_Thee]

I believe there is a server without banner balance now, eu5?  You could just go there.

[justme]

pin balance..

[Teeth]

heres an idea... get better... I bet one saulcanner or kaoklai or someone like that could take the whole HRE team on...btw randomers have the right to use any banner they want
Fact remain if there are 60 people its going to be close to a 30v30 and thats fair teams... if your losing then get better

This post is so full of shit, thanks for the brilliant advice.

[Kafein]

If you really want to play siege without a big blob on the other side, you can still negate their banner stacking by having all HRE members switch banners to that of DRZ, GO etc.

Pushed to the extreme, this leads to the whole server using one banner, thus acting like if there was no banner balance.

[RibaldRon]

Long story short: There isn't really any autobalance.

One way people circumvent it is to just NOT SPAWN if they get on the team that they don't want to be on, so the teams might be perfectly balanced, if they would spawn without being on their clan's team.

Happens all the freaking time.  Good solution to that, though, might be to not reward players who could have, but didn't, spawn in.  Maybe even  an auto-kick or temporary ban for repeat offenders.


Admins sometimes take care of it but not usually.

Unfortunately I think the only solution to this would take more effort than it's worth, though the autobalance for c-RPG is way worse than native, where it seems there's extensive balancing done every round.

[Zaren]

U must be new to siege.

nah not new at all.. in fact ive gone 2 gens never playing battle and just siege  ive seen saul or racecar take out like 10 guys so again...get better(but then again ur HRE......)

[Zaren]

Bold words for someone unfamiliar with the HRE.

and tears what i know about the HRE is
1. They got their asses kicked in strat by hospitaller, occitan, and us (and templar? i forgot if they took part in it)
2. i consistantly kill them(in NA but o well yes i know they are EU and have bad ping)
3. If anyone complains about being killed or somethings unfair.... my reply is-Get Better

[Hunter_the_Honourable]

and tears what i know about the HRE is
1. They got their asses kicked in strat by hospitaller, occitan, and us (and templar? i forgot if they took part in it)
2. i consistantly kill them(in NA but o well yes i know they are EU and have bad ping)
3. If anyone complains about being killed or somethings unfair.... my reply is-Get Better

pretty shite reply, just because a clan lost on strat doesnt mean they will in a normal battle server. Maybe they didnt have the weapons and armor their best with, maybe they didnt have most of their members on who knows point is strat is totally different from normal servers. And what kind of advice is "Get better" thats like saying to a person whos autistic to focus on the convosation...its just not going to happen, People "get better" by training and working for it not just "spawn....stab stab stab...die....spawn...die...spawn.....slash slash slash...KILL...die..." no I dont know how you learned to play and "got better" but I had to train and had to have someone teach me how to play....back on to the main subject as you said if you have faced HRE on an NA server ping makes a pretty big different on your performance and has a big impact on gameplay...why don't you try joining EU_2 or 5 and see how well you do with shite ping... and the comment but then again ur HRE...... what the fuck is that supposed to mean? if its relating to the fact their german you should just stop posting and if its not how can you judge a clan from a few strat battles??

[Siiem]

I still stick my suggestion of banners being tied to strategus factions. Why would you need a banner if you're not in a clan anyway.

[FRANK_THE_TANK]

+1 for removing banner balance all together. Its a complete waste of time and effort.

What we need is a dedicated NA & EU server that uses the battle group system. Have clans set up regular battle group battles and then duke it out. LLJK+CHAOS vs ATS+HATE, stuff like that.

The "public/comunity" servers are no place for clan toting ballony. The "leechers" aren't at fault either it stupid system that gives clans server priority over everyone else. If your on and getting your arse whooped because 1 team has 18 people on TS working together vs your rable you can't blame the person who say "fuck this" and changes their banner.

[Zerran]

+1 for removing banner balance all together. Its a complete waste of time and effort.

What we need is a dedicated NA & EU server that uses the battle group system. Have clans set up regular battle group battles and then duke it out. LLJK+CHAOS vs ATS+HATE, stuff like that.

The "public/comunity" servers are no place for clan toting ballony. The "leechers" aren't at fault either it stupid system that gives clans server priority over everyone else. If your on and getting your arse whooped because 1 team has 18 people on TS working together vs your rable you can't blame the person who say "fuck this" and changes their banner.

I disagree with removal of banner balance. It's really fun to group up with some clan mates while playing, and without banner balance that becomes exceedingly difficult. What we need is a limit on how many people can have the same banner and still be on the same team.

For example, let's say the server currently has 100 people on it. Of those, only let's say 20 can have the same banner and still be teamed up together, assuming fewer than 41 people throw on the banner. Once more than 20 have the same banner, it splits them between the 2 teams. The more people that throw on that banner, the more they get split. (These numbers are of course just off the top of my head, and would need revision) Therefore, small clans and just groups of friends who want to group up and play together can still do so very easily, but you can't have a massive horde of people all grouped up with the same banner slaughtering randomers.

[ShinySpoons]

I think this is in the works already, stating on the crpg website your clan affliation or a group code so that grouping up with friends dosen't rely on banner balance anymore. Would be preferable to limiting banners, and stops unaffliated players from jumping on the bandwagon.

[Malaclypse]

I'm for removing banner balance entirely on the official servers. The official servers should be based on character stats/classes for balance. Leave banner balance to Community or otherwise "independent" servers. I'm all for playing with my bros, but I also like fighting against them; mostly I'd just like balance to take into consideration those who are clanless or otherwise don't care about what their banner is.