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Offer Heirloom Respecs on Major Weapon Rebalances
« on: February 25, 2011, 08:15:49 pm »
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Some weapons need serious overhauling and balancing, and that shouldn't be prevented, but should consider to offer respecs if there are major changes to the current main weapons, just so people can feel like they didn't waste 1-3 generations into a single item, and allows them to try something new or the same thing again.

This coming from a 2nd gen, so I don't even have a masterwork yet.

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Re: Offer Heirloom Respecs on Major Weapon Rebalances
« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2011, 10:59:05 pm »
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I agree. I suspect one of my heirlooms (poleaxe) will become unbalanced in which case I want to have a reimbersement on my heirloom of it :D

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Re: Offer Heirloom Respecs on Major Weapon Rebalances
« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2011, 03:40:30 pm »
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Re: Offer Heirloom Respecs on Major Weapon Rebalances
« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2011, 04:40:32 pm »
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I SPY A THIEF! THIEF IN OUR MIDST!

Yep, I would greatly appreciate the option to respec weapons, perhaps for a cost of 10k or 20k per respec. Enough to make you take a respec seriously, but not enough to be disgustingly prohibitive.

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Re: Offer Heirloom Respecs on Major Weapon Rebalances
« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2011, 04:55:43 pm »
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 There will be HEIRLOOM TRADING. Probably with prices about 100k and up. And you want to have a chance to change heirlooms when there  is rebalance? Maybe weapon you stopped to like, i.e. barmace without crushthrough, will still be great weapon for archer?

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Re: Offer Heirloom Respecs on Major Weapon Rebalances
« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2011, 04:58:16 pm »
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I SPY A THIEF! THIEF IN OUR MIDST!

Yep, I would greatly appreciate the option to respec weapons, perhaps for a cost of 10k or 20k per respec. Enough to make you take a respec seriously, but not enough to be disgustingly prohibitive.

Lol that would be dirt cheap, a fair price for heirloom respec would be 100k/modifier.

As for trading I highly doubt you will be able to buy heirlooms for money, probably just switch them. Or I don't know who would sell his heirloom for money, I know I wouldn't.
« Last Edit: February 28, 2011, 04:59:45 pm by Punisher »

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Re: Offer Heirloom Respecs on Major Weapon Rebalances
« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2011, 05:28:38 pm »
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Yea, want to trade masterwork long dagger for masterwork heavy lance...

Can you imagine that? Cuz I cant.

Isnt it looking much better:

Guy a)
Want to sell masterwork long dagger for 60k!
Want to buy masterwork heavy lance for 120k!

And guy b)

I want to make a long dagger face hugger, i take long dagger!

And guy c)

Wanna sell masterwork heavy lance for 130k!

Guy a)

I want to buy it for 120k!

c) again:

Ok, deal.

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Re: Offer Heirloom Respecs on Major Weapon Rebalances
« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2011, 05:33:58 pm »
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i like the trading thing, but i think we should have some kind of currency that cant be grinded to tarde with; lets call this currency X for now.
then i think you should be able to sell a heirloom (to the website) for y X, and then you should be able to buy another real guys heirlooms for a certain amount of X, and you would only be able to gain those X by selling your current heirlooms.

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Re: Offer Heirloom Respecs on Major Weapon Rebalances
« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2011, 05:37:38 pm »
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We don't need currency if trading will come into the game. People will just point out which weapon they offer for which in return.
Easier.

But, I'd rather not have stuff like this. I say no to respeccing heirlooms, build a character for once because you like the style, not because it's overpowered. If you want to heirloom a barmace because you know it's overpowered, than don't whine now. You knew the consequences.

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Re: Offer Heirloom Respecs on Major Weapon Rebalances
« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2011, 07:34:42 pm »
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Make it cost 500k. Problem is that those who go for the OP weapon of the moment will just respec to the next OP weapon when they get balanced.
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Re: Offer Heirloom Respecs on Major Weapon Rebalances
« Reply #10 on: March 01, 2011, 02:44:49 pm »
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How about Number of trades = character generation or generaton/2 or something along those lines?

Dunno, just an idea *shrugs*
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Re: Offer Heirloom Respecs on Major Weapon Rebalances
« Reply #11 on: March 01, 2011, 04:08:52 pm »
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heirloom respecing on a regular basis would also be nice so people would not be locked to class as much
as it is, having an heirloomed 1h means you will probably stay 1h, but whats the point??
ability to change heirlooms would increase diversity of gameplay for those that would want to change their style.
+ the fact that you would not feel screwed over by rebalance.

PS: before you say "you made the choice now live with it"
consider:
upsides:
+balance(some will always choose the op alternative, now everyone has equal opportunity)
+playing with the gear you like
+getting to change your style(looks and class)
+system that does not need new fixing every time items are rebalanced
downsides:
-more OP heirlooms(however more evenly distributed, so not really a downside:))
« Last Edit: March 01, 2011, 04:12:21 pm by Killface_ »

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Re: Offer Heirloom Respecs on Major Weapon Rebalances
« Reply #12 on: March 01, 2011, 04:14:04 pm »
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I agree with ^ , just put a 100k fee/modifier (so it's 300k to reheirloom a masterwork, for example) and it will be fine.

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Re: Offer Heirloom Respecs on Major Weapon Rebalances
« Reply #13 on: March 01, 2011, 04:34:41 pm »
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 There will be HEIRLOOM TRADING. Probably with prices about 100k and up. And you want to have a chance to change heirlooms when there  is rebalance? Maybe weapon you stopped to like, i.e. barmace without crushthrough, will still be great weapon for archer?

Can't you understand me? THERE WILL BE A WAY TO CHANGE YOUR HEIRLOOMS: SELL YOUR ITEAM AND BUY ANOTHER ONE!

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Re: Offer Heirloom Respecs on Major Weapon Rebalances
« Reply #14 on: March 01, 2011, 05:42:19 pm »
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You're assuming every item will be available for trading. Don't. Having to rely on the willingness of other players to trade is a horrible idea. We've all spent a massive amount of time working towards our heirlooms, and I don't think a price to respec per heirloom is too much to ask. We've already DONE the work to get it. 

I'd like to try a Deadly Military Pick instead of my heirloomed Steel Pick. How would I go about that?

Know anyone who's heirloomed a Military Pick three times? I don't...