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Re: Give us free respec
« Reply #30 on: January 23, 2012, 10:55:19 am »
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I've never hit 32 and I always plan my builds a few levels beyond that just in case, so it hardly concerns me, but I think it's not so unsensible as it might first sound to let players respec within a certain xp bracket around level 32, 33 etcetera.

Those players are forfeiting equipment stats for character stats and each upgrade is increasingly further away, while for retiring players, each upgrade is increasingly closer, thanks to the xp bonus to higher generations. Retiring players would still get to change their spec more often than non-retiring players, even if it was presented just like that, but strap a high fee on (maybe it reduces an heirloomed item by 1 point to respec, maybe you can't use more than 5k equipment for a week beforehand) and it could be more acceptable to the retiring masses.

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Re: Give us free respec
« Reply #31 on: January 23, 2012, 10:56:15 am »
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People that are leveling past 31 should not be given any respecs.

This. The same that complain about heirloom prices want their way to become even more a nobrainer. Choosing to go high level gives much more power on the battlefield than the equivalent in heirlooms, but you sacrifice flexibility for that power. Working as intended without free respecs.

Afaik, cav never got any free respec when the horse riding requirements were all fucked up. As people have mentioned, the only free respec we had was a few months after the upkeep patch, what I would call the retirement nerf patch, when total XP was recalculated retroactively to account for a reduced and capped XP bonus. Kesh was like gen 91 at that time and I think postupkeep generations were roughly divided by 3.

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Re: Give us free respec
« Reply #32 on: January 23, 2012, 11:53:21 am »
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Kesh was like gen 91 at that time and I think postupkeep generations were roughly divided by 3.

Is Kesh still playing in CRPG with gen 91? Does he still exist? Great History you mention there Kafein :D

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Re: Give us free respec
« Reply #33 on: January 23, 2012, 11:56:42 am »
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Bull. That would suck ass, screw the high-level guys. They don't need respec.

This, and I'm one of those high-level guys. I've respecced from mid-33 to 32, and from high 32 to high 31 (back to quarter-32 now). It's quite fine, honestly. If I weren't so spazzy about my build and weapon, I would probably be nearing 34 by now, but that's the price I've chosen to pay.

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Re: Give us free respec
« Reply #34 on: January 23, 2012, 12:38:26 pm »
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Imho losing fixed amount of XP after lvl 31 is retarded idea. Just make them lose 1/3 of XP if they want to respec so much after lvl 31.

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Re: Give us free respec
« Reply #35 on: January 23, 2012, 01:06:02 pm »
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We got it once because there was a complete overhaul of skill requirements and essentially the entire mod, if I recall correctly.

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Re: Give us free respec
« Reply #36 on: January 23, 2012, 01:13:18 pm »
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Only a stupid will reespec, we ranged are perfectly balanced now. Become arba user TODAY !!!  :twisted:

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Re: Give us free respec
« Reply #37 on: January 23, 2012, 04:56:11 pm »
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If they do give a free respec at least limit it by level like they did with the sacrifice thing. so maybe only a free respec under level 25 only if you messed up your build. Also make it only once a gen.

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Re: Give us free respec
« Reply #38 on: January 23, 2012, 04:58:45 pm »
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I'm not talking about that kind of free respec. I'm asking for global free respec because 40% of people got heavily nerfed by last patch. It's a one time thing, just like the previous time.

It's not a feature, it's a gift from gods of crpg (chadz, cmpx).

Edit: About cav nerf...

First thing, you guys are only 20% of the community. Second, even though that nerf was kinda shocking, you adapted pretty fast and basically didn't lose much. You were and will always be the strongest class in this game, no doubt about that.

Ranged folks will have hard time adapting to this change and truth to be told most of them never were game changers like cavs are.
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Re: Give us free respec
« Reply #39 on: January 23, 2012, 06:40:45 pm »
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I say let the ones that were hit the most by the nerf patch just get as fast as they can go to 31 and retire. No free respec.
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Re: Give us free respec
« Reply #40 on: January 23, 2012, 07:04:06 pm »
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i am not sure about a character respec, but i am all for a loom respec.

And if you argue, yeah but the market system will take care ... bullshit. There are like 100 Awlpikes to be sold and nearly equally as many warspears are wanted. Those who have already a loomed warspear will most likely not sell it and whoever now takes Awlpikes is just a gambler who hopes about a change in Awlpikes.

So basicly people sit on their now crapy Awlpike, which they don't want to use anymore.
And i bet there are other weapons with the same problems, perhaps not even from the latest patches but those over the last months.
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Re: Give us free respec
« Reply #41 on: January 23, 2012, 07:11:28 pm »
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Giving everyone a free switch to a melee or cav build does not fix the issue. Removing the nerf is what needs to happen.

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Re: Give us free respec
« Reply #42 on: January 23, 2012, 07:34:39 pm »
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what ?

XP got re-calculated once, when upkeep patch was implemented. Marketplace was implemented 3 or 4 months later.
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Re: Give us free respec
« Reply #43 on: January 23, 2012, 07:43:12 pm »
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i am not sure about a character respec, but i am all for a loom respec.

And if you argue, yeah but the market system will take care ... bullshit. There are like 100 Awlpikes to be sold and nearly equally as many warspears are wanted. Those who have already a loomed warspear will most likely not sell it and whoever now takes Awlpikes is just a gambler who hopes about a change in Awlpikes.

So basicly people sit on their now crapy Awlpike, which they don't want to use anymore.
And i bet there are other weapons with the same problems, perhaps not even from the latest patches but those over the last months.

Awlpikes are a great weapon still, just not for hoplites anymore. You should be able to sell/trade it pretty easily.
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Re: Give us free respec
« Reply #44 on: January 23, 2012, 07:46:14 pm »
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yeah i 1/2 shot people with my mw awlpike all the time its damn awesome
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