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Swiss-Army Knife build idea.
« on: January 18, 2012, 09:31:58 am »
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So, I got bored of being a polearm footman guy only, I miss my good old versatility.

However, I decided to make it even more flexible than before, introducing 1h/shield.

Here's the basic idea of the build:

Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)

    Strength: 18
    Agility: 18
    Hit points: 61

    Skills to attributes: 2

    Ironflesh: 4
    Power Strike: 6
    Shield: 4
    Athletics: 5
    Riding: 5
    Horse Archery: 0
    Power Draw: 0
    Power Throw: 0
    Weapon Master: 5

    One Handed: 108
    Two Handed: 1
    Polearm: 115
    Archery: 1
    Crossbow: 1
    Throwing: 1

What do you think? Will the WPF be enough? Or something is poorly distributed?
Post your corrections or ideas, thank you. I'll use the build next gen, so it's not that urgent, but I'd like to see what you guys think.
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Re: Swiss-Army Knife build idea.
« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2012, 09:41:11 am »
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Okay. I really need to wake up.

Why the hell did I post this in suggestions corner?

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Re: Swiss-Army Knife build idea.
« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2012, 09:42:00 am »
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A hoplite build? Could switch one point from IF to Athl.

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Re: Swiss-Army Knife build idea.
« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2012, 09:43:28 am »
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It's basically 2handed polearm, spear/shield, 1h/shield 1h/lancer cav, in one package.
Versatility is the key here; I could pick basically anything that's best for the given map, terrain, or situation when I know the teams.

Dunno how effective it could be.

Also, if a moderator could move this to the appropriate section, I'd thank you.
« Last Edit: January 18, 2012, 09:45:13 am by Christo »
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Re: Swiss-Army Knife build idea.
« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2012, 09:44:28 am »
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Well I can show you MY Swiss knife build, which I have been using for a gen(I still use it, but slightly different):



    Strength: 18
    Agility: 21
    Hit points: 61

    Skills to attributes: 8

    Ironflesh: 0
    Power Strike: 6
    Shield: 3
    Athletics: 7
    Riding: 0
    Horse Archery: 0
    Power Draw: 0
    Power Throw: 0
    Weapon Master: 7

    One Handed: 100
    Two Handed: 100
    Polearm: 100
    Archery: 1
    Crossbow: +-75
    Throwing: 1

This is for Infantry, and it´s really good if you are relatively light armored.

Ofc If you want Riding, 18/18 is better.I WOULD ditch Ironflesh in your build, to get 6 ath, riding and wm + 5 shield, though.

But be prepared to throw away any body armor over 12 weight you used, because with +-100 wpf in a weapon category you will suck with those kinds of armors.The only way to be competetive like that is using light stuff.
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Re: Swiss-Army Knife build idea.
« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2012, 09:47:15 am »
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Hmm, that's a bugger. I can't really stand light stuff for how unforgiving it can be.

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Re: Swiss-Army Knife build idea.
« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2012, 09:50:59 am »
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Well then such a build isnt really optimal for you.

I mean, you can still be effective in Battle with heavy stuff and that build, but only if you do nothing but support.You will fail in almost every duel situation.

You could use some better gear if you bring it to 6 weaponmaster and distribute the points evenly, with 120+ wpf in a weapon you can start wearing medium gear without many disadvantages.
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Re: Swiss-Army Knife build idea.
« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2012, 09:57:52 am »
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Guess I am willing too much here, and should only focus on a pure polearm WPF lancer/hoplite/2handed polearmer build.

It's alright, but I'd like to have that onehander boosted with WPF whenever I need it.

Looks like one can't have everything, and has to make compromises.
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Re: Swiss-Army Knife build idea.
« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2012, 10:03:00 am »
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Guess I am willing too much here, and should only focus on a pure polearm WPF lancer/hoplite/2handed polearmer build.

It's alright, but I'd like to have that onehander boosted with WPF whenever I need it.

Looks like one can't have everything, and has to make compromises.

Or make it a level 31 build and solve your problems :P

But as said before, you need at least 100 wpf AFTER weight penalties to even use weapons with the stats listed on the website. If I understood correctly, you get penalties to speed and damage when using a weapon with less than 100 wpf.

Ditch 1 point in IF for 1 point in WM and see how much wpf you can get when distributing evenly.
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Re: Swiss-Army Knife build idea.
« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2012, 10:10:42 am »
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Or make it a level 31 build and solve your problems :P

But as said before, you need at least 100 wpf AFTER weight penalties to even use weapons with the stats listed on the website. If I understood correctly, you get penalties to speed and damage when using a weapon with less than 100 wpf.

Ditch 1 point in IF for 1 point in WM and see how much wpf you can get when distributing evenly.

One Handed: 118
Polearm: 119

Can't make it more even.

Question is, what is the exact formula on weight/wpf loss? Hmm.
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Re: Swiss-Army Knife build idea.
« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2012, 10:12:26 am »
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I dont really know, but with the WPF you just listed, you will be doing good in medium armor at least.

I wouldnt bother trieing heavy, though.
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Re: Swiss-Army Knife build idea.
« Reply #11 on: January 18, 2012, 10:14:43 am »
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Gah.

There goes my traditional look then?

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Re: Swiss-Army Knife build idea.
« Reply #12 on: January 18, 2012, 10:31:32 am »
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So, I got bored of being a polearm footman guy only, I miss my good old versatility.

However, I decided to make it even more flexible than before, introducing 1h/shield.

Here's the basic idea of the build:

Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)

    Strength: 18
    Agility: 18
    Hit points: 61

    Skills to attributes: 2

    Ironflesh: 4
    Power Strike: 6
    Shield: 4
    Athletics: 5
    Riding: 5
    Horse Archery: 0
    Power Draw: 0
    Power Throw: 0
    Weapon Master: 5

    One Handed: 108
    Two Handed: 1
    Polearm: 115
    Archery: 1
    Crossbow: 1
    Throwing: 1

What do you think? Will the WPF be enough? Or something is poorly distributed?
Post your corrections or ideas, thank you. I'll use the build next gen, so it's not that urgent, but I'd like to see what you guys think.


this was my second gen build , and it was good  , i had more 1h wpf though
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Re: Swiss-Army Knife build idea.
« Reply #13 on: January 18, 2012, 10:38:14 am »
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There is still about 1,6m xp to go until the next generation, so I still got time to decide what to do though.

No big problem.
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Re: Swiss-Army Knife build idea.
« Reply #14 on: January 18, 2012, 10:55:13 am »
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Gah.

There goes my traditional look then?

e.e

Well the Mail and plate + Faceplate is definately a bit too heavy for such a build ^-^
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