New ranged change

[Turkhammer]

Mount and Blade singleplayer (what the game was originally made for) field battles are largely won by archers and cavalry, with infantry there only to protect the archers. Actually, that had the best results in sieges, too. Holding your charge up the ladder until all of your archers had fired meant there would be very little opposition waiting at the top of that ladder. There's no question that archers won the day when defending in a siege.

Personally, the last thing I would ever want in my army, be it a field battle or siege, is a 2 handed fighter. An infantryman without a shield seems pretty useless outside of tournaments.

All good points Gristle, but you are forgetting something basic.  Most here worship at the altar of Balance.  Balance is a jealous goddess and nothing must be allowed to infringe upon her demands, even reality. A profane word if ever there was one.  Balance is also a fickle goddess.  She now demands that archers change from what they always were, an area weapon, to what they can never be, a sniper.  She demands this so that all on the battlefield may be heroes and Paladins.  None must be relegated to the lowly status of shield carriers.  How much better to give these shield less wonders hearts (and lungs, gizzards, livers, gallbladders and other assorted viscera) of oak and iron.

But be of good cheer.  The wails and cries of her currently aggrieved supplicants will soon enough sway the fickle goddess and her high priests to change once again, in the eternal quest for the holy grail of balance.

[Strudog]

no skill for arbalests, it os far more skilled than any other ranged, the timing of shots and who to shoot can be diffucult, i would like to see anyone use the arbalest after the patch and say it is balanced, 2 shots to the upper chest for peaants and someties 3 for lightly armoured it is a complete joke...., considering we only get 13 bolts and slow reload time, i hardly ever fire more than 3/4 in a match if i survive the whole round.

[Gurnisson]

well, it doesnt reduce their accuracy

It does, reload speed and accuracy

EVEN HAVING these huge advantages over archers in melee

Learn to make a build. You can make good archer builds with melee capabilities.

[Tears of Destiny]

Who is BlindGuy in game?

[Fartface]

It was nerfed like two patches back.But that wasnt the point of my post.
the point was that Ranged infantry is fine now, but Horse archers got overnerfed.

Well i still hold an average of 3:1 kdr after the nerf.
But yeah i''m weaker but i dont feel weak .
Just point your crosshair a bit up now, and it will improve alot;)

[Old_Sir_Agor]

Who is BlindGuy in game?

how i remember some crappy archer, allways with bad score)

[MrShine]

BREAKING NEWS
The class I play clearly requires much more "skill" than the class you play.

[Old_Sir_Agor]

now fun only in girls and alcohol 

[PanPan]

Fuck that nerf I'll never leave my Long Bow even if I won't see the crosshairs cus of unaccuracy ,even when my bow is so slow that I need to wait it to reload for next round,
even when the arrows land infront of me cus of low missile speed!

[Fartface]

Fuck that nerf I'll never leave my Long Bow even if I won't see the crosshairs cus of unaccuracy ,even when my bow is so slow that I need to wait it to reload for next round,
even when the arrows land infront of me cus of low missile speed!

HERO nuff said.

[BlindGuy]

It does, reload speed and accuracy

Learn to make a build. You can make good archer builds with melee capabilities.

I didnt say archers cannot melee, I typed that not putting 5 or 6 skillpoints into powerdraw gives xbowers advantage. I really dont see how you can argue with that.

As to reload speed and accuracy being nerfed by armour weight: Yeah its true, a few milimeters larger Xhair is so much worse...

how i remember some crappy archer, allways with bad score)

Yep, shooting ppl with my short sword, firing bamboo spears....Your memory is bad bro.

[bonekuukkeli]

So to put it simple. He doesn't have any idea how archers work and do they need skill or not.

[Tears of Destiny]

So to put it simple. He doesn't have any idea how archers work and do they need skill or not.

Basically, yes.
The last time his posts have said he played archer was so many patches ago that it is a completely different animal now.

[Old_Sir_Agor]

So to put it simple. He doesn't have any idea how archers work and do they need skill or not.

lol +1 xawi ))

[Cup1d]

Well, Wolves_Sebastian and his 100 pierce from a bow hiding on unreachable roofs, that's such a joke. However, I said the combined forces of being unreachable and having the damage of MW Arbalest and MW Steel Bolts with a bow. Just removing ladders would've been enough to remove that silly combo.

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Check his «effective wpf», do you really think that he can aim?

All what he receive with his +4PD is +6 damage, in comparison with 6PD 180 wpf archer.