Why are 2h better then polearms?

[Arkonor]

Been wondering why polearm stats are so much better for equal value items.

Polearms get stuneffect.
2h's reach is about 20 higher on swings.

Example

Great Bardiche [2H]
Price : 6906
Speed : 89
Dmg : 44 cut
Length : 116 (136 with swing animation bonus)
UNBALANCED

Long Bardiche [Polearm]
Price : 6934
Speed : 89
Dmg : 45 cut (Has also a bad stab)
Length : 140

This is just one example. I for one would never take unbalanced stuff without getting at least 5 extra dmg for that penalty.

But this isn't the only example it seems bot be cross board that polearms have better stats.

So can anyone explain to me what the "MISSING" bonus is with using two handed weapons ? Do their animation make them connect faster for the same speed ? Do they spew fire ?

[Vibe]

Escape this thread while you still can

[Phew]

The bardiches are a bad example; the 2H bardiches/axes are terrible. People go 2H for the Great Maul and the swords.

Great Maul is the premier crushthrough weapon, and in general, 2H swords have the reach of a spear on their thrust and extremely favorable animations compared to polearms. Polearms trade crappy animations for utility (stun, horse rearing, pierce dmg, shieldbreaking, etc).

[Mlekce]

2h weapons are less fun and easier,and faster than polearms but polearms have the stun,more dmg and more range.
It is hard to play at biggining,but after you get used to,you newer want to go back to 2h.

[Teeth]

As of know, polearms are the stronger weapon class I think. Very weird to compare these two weapons though, few people actually use these two. You should compare a poleaxe and one of the Greatswords.

[Gurnisson]

Two-handers are better for dueling and for winning when you're outnumbered. Polearms are a lot more versatile, have the stagger and is generally hard-hitting.

[BlackMilk]

Polearms are better for
a) Siege
b) Duel
c) Battle
d) Capture the Flag
e) Defend the Virgin

[Arkonor]

As of know, polearms are the stronger weapon class I think. Very weird to compare these two weapons though, few people actually use these two. You should compare a poleaxe and one of the Greatswords.

Was harder to compare since they have different utilities like a useful longer stab vs higher dmg stab.

These two have the same function really but not in stats.

But when I think about it more I do think originally 2h-ers could all be used from a mount but none of the polearms (axe types). Might explain why they have worse stats.

[Xant]

Polearms are better for
a) Siege
b) Duel
c) Battle
d) Capture the Flag
e) Defend the Village

Which village?

[ArchonAlarion]

Polearms are better for
c) Battle... maybe

Fixed it for you.

[BlackMilk]

Fixed it for you.

Not at all.

[Darkkarma]

Not at all.

I'm sorry but I disagree. Polearms are simply not better dueling weapons than two handers in my opinion.

[Dexxtaa]

Apples and Oranges.

[Cathaoir]

Cuz majority of polearm people bitch about every nerf on them, and push for the nerfs on others.
probably just becuase its the most versatile weapon, so almost everyone is using it.

theres maybe what... 10-20 people out of the some 20,000 people using polearms that have more then an ounce of skill.
(watch your back for dainsters, that dude is sick)

Key to stopping rolly pole-ys is blocking their two go-to's overhand, and stab.

They are piss scared of hitting teammates, and hate walls, so pretty much 4 out of 5 swings are going to be over or under hand.
I dont think they realize how weak this makes polearms, unless your alone with 5 enemies in a field.
Endurance.
Cuz thats how dainsters gets you, you can block his over underhands 10 times he just keeps jump spin stabbing till he lands it.

[Renten]

Most omni-directional 2h have the same or better range than omni-directional polearms. Coupled with the better animations they become the better weapon for duelling and surrounded fighting. The large range polearms that work great as support are pretty much incapable of fighting by themselves due to having only 1 or 2 attack directions. Only a few people can deal with this and it looks weird as hell when you see a pikeman doing 360 spins mid-fight. Also the 2h animations seem to favor not glancing much more than the polearm animations. I feel 2hs are just much more well rounded in their ability to deal with all situations compared to an equal polearm.  Stabbing polearms do kick ass in the crazy but spread out fights that tend to happen in battle on some maps. Nothing better than stepping away from your enemy and stabbing another in the back 5 feet away.