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Is it just me or do two handers seem unfair?
« on: January 10, 2012, 04:16:35 am »
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Every person that i see in first with +20 kills and 2 deaths is using a two hander. Before I start I want to make it clear that I'm not saying that using two handers doesn't require some skill. What i am saying is, I think that there is a problem with the speed that they are swung. For example, I  can't even get a second swing off before I get hit with the 5 two handed swing and I am using a one handed sword! I find that skill isn't the reason why these two handed warriors are in first, but rather than super fast spamming of the two handers. Anyone else agree? Thoughts?

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Re: Is it just me or do two handers seem unfair?
« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2012, 05:02:33 am »
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Learn how to turn with your swings and use good footwork. Two handers are slow as balls now.
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Re: Is it just me or do two handers seem unfair?
« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2012, 05:23:55 am »
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2-handers are fun
2-handers do a lot of damage per swing, so more hits = kills

They don't need a nerf.
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Re: Is it just me or do two handers seem unfair?
« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2012, 05:31:22 am »
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hmmm really? dang they must of been god like!

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Re: Is it just me or do two handers seem unfair?
« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2012, 05:33:36 am »
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Every person that i see in first with +20 kills and 2 deaths is using a two hander. Before I start I want to make it clear that I'm not saying that using two handers doesn't require some skill. What i am saying is, I think that there is a problem with the speed that they are swung. For example, I  can't even get a second swing off before I get hit with the 5 two handed swing and I am using a one handed sword! I find that skill isn't the reason why these two handed warriors are in first, but rather than super fast spamming of the two handers. Anyone else agree? Thoughts?
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Re: Is it just me or do two handers seem unfair?
« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2012, 05:34:58 am »
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In all seriousness most of it is just good footwork and timing.

Try looking around in the beginner's section, there should be some tutorials on those somewhere.
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Re: Is it just me or do two handers seem unfair?
« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2012, 07:52:13 am »
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Guess you haven't seen what kind of score good cavalry gets?

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Re: Is it just me or do two handers seem unfair?
« Reply #7 on: January 10, 2012, 07:56:12 am »
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just dance in middle of them, make them kill each other

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Re: Is it just me or do two handers seem unfair?
« Reply #8 on: January 10, 2012, 08:48:29 am »
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Re: Is it just me or do two handers seem unfair?
« Reply #9 on: January 10, 2012, 01:49:48 pm »
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Every person that i see in first with +20 kills and 2 deaths is using a two hander. Before I start I want to make it clear that I'm not saying that using two handers doesn't require some skill. What i am saying is, I think that there is a problem with the speed that they are swung. For example, I  can't even get a second swing off before I get hit with the 5 two handed swing and I am using a one handed sword! I find that skill isn't the reason why these two handed warriors are in first, but rather than super fast spamming of the two handers. Anyone else agree? Thoughts?
You are just experiencing the very normal learning curve of Mount&Blade Warband. There have been 100billiontwothousand1 threads about this topic (bold) and you just have to train and read beginner-stuff to get the hang of it. Blaming 2handed weapons is of course nonsense and has nothing to do with the issue.
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Re: Is it just me or do two handers seem unfair?
« Reply #10 on: January 10, 2012, 02:52:26 pm »
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2handed are easy to kill, throw them a snowball in the eye, than slash their face while they are stun = win
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Re: Is it just me or do two handers seem unfair?
« Reply #11 on: January 10, 2012, 03:15:02 pm »
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2h are actually the "best" weapon category and in particular 2h swords (In terms of effective killing power per encounter). Go to a duel server. Why do they proliferate there? It is because 1-1 they are the better on average and to the extent that battles are a sequence of 1-1 encounters, the same will apply.

With larger battles and decent teamwork/tactics, the utility of 2h decreases because of heavy cavalry/lancers and especially archer spam.

If anything, the speed of the 2h swords makes sense, although their cut damage can be absurd at times from a realistic standpoint. They do not need to be nerfed though.
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Re: Is it just me or do two handers seem unfair?
« Reply #12 on: January 10, 2012, 07:25:47 pm »
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Every person that i see in first with +20 kills and 2 deaths is using a two hander

Not on NA.

Two handers are popular mainly because it is a romantic concept. Think of what most heros use in media.
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Re: Is it just me or do two handers seem unfair?
« Reply #13 on: January 10, 2012, 07:35:45 pm »
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It is pretty much because of skill that they top scoreboards, they know when to attack and where, and they hunt peasants.

If you feel that you are slower than a 2h it is because of your timing in the attacks, as they have a longer weapon they can release the attack earlier and so it feels like they are faster.
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Re: Is it just me or do two handers seem unfair?
« Reply #14 on: January 11, 2012, 12:35:29 am »
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Think of what most heros use in media.

Guns?
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