Fix Lances/Spears etc

[Nihtgenga]

Its just ridiculous to be stabbed by a 2 m weapon from a 2 feet distance... : )
I mean we have it for 2h and swingable polearms that you cant hit somebody if your to close...

discuss

[[ptx]]

Fail troll.

[Nihtgenga]

...?

[Vibe]

But lances/spears glance too if you don't spinthrust them, just like 2h and swingable polearms...

[Nihtgenga]

But lances/spears glance too if you don't spinthrust them, just like 2h and swingable polearms...

mh...never glance of me it seems. but I am gonna pay attention to that

[Inkompetent]

Minus-vote for using "Discuss" instead of writing a post that provokes replies.

[Lorenzo_of_Iberia]

Have you even played with spears? Most unappreciated weapons in the game

Lances I admit are annoying but if a 2h can do a 2 inch stab overhead I have no issue with lances being used at half the range, just assume the lancer moved the polearm further along his arm

[Nihtgenga]

Minus-vote for using "Discuss" instead of writing a post that provokes replies.

read first line again...

what else do you need to provoke a reply? one line, simple and clear so all the read-lazy guys can share their opinion aswell.

[oprah_winfrey]

Polearms glance at pointblank if you dont spin thrust, buy I think its a lower chance because the grip used on a polearm thrust is more of a thrust then a poke like the 2hers

[polkafranzi]

Its just ridiculous that a Longswords thrust attack can outrange a perfectly placed heavy lance couch.

discuss

This would've got +1,

instead...

[Ufthak]

If you stab a spear at point blank it glances, even if they're moving forward. That shouldn't happen. So unless they're willing to remove the minimum range on the stab so long as the head isn't already past them, then no.

Realistically, if you have a spear planted firmly against someones chest and they start to move forward, what'll happen? Right, they impale themselves like an idiot. If the person isn't even wearing a shirt, it'll hardly take anything to penetrate realistically. I can't tell you how many times I've had my spear bounce off of naked flesh because I didn't bother to wiggle my attack against a fleeing peasant/archer.

[SixThumbs]

I thought this thread was going to be about how the characters hold pole-arms in the middle but now I'm not sure what this thread is about.

[B3RS3RK]

Have you even played with spears?

I played with ALL the Weapon categories there are.

Spear is by far the most entertaining, and rather easy if you are at least average.

[Lorenzo_of_Iberia]

Spear without shield is really outclassed. Its outranged by 2h's, out damaged by 2h's on all but the thrust (being generous to the spear there) and its slower than 2h. I'd say the spear is good vs horses but anything but the ash pike cant reach an able lancer, you are better off with (guess what) a 2h Sure if you are happy playing support and team play spear is a wiser choice but in most other situations my money would be on 2h's

Hoplite builds are fun and a good way of being half decent at low lvls but very few 'spear' builds at lvl 30 would say its an easy game to play

[Zerran]

Spear without shield is really outclassed. Its outranged by 2h's, out damaged by 2h's on all but the thrust (being generous to the spear there) and its slower than 2h. I'd say the spear is good vs horses but anything but the ash pike cant reach an able lancer, you are better off with (guess what) a 2h Sure if you are happy playing support and team play spear is a wiser choice but in most other situations my money would be on 2h's

Hoplite builds are fun and a good way of being half decent at low lvls but very few 'spear' builds at lvl 30 would say its an easy game to play

Have you tried a 15/24 or 18/21 build with a spear? I almost never get outreached by lancers even using the war spear. Lances generally aren't hard to dodge unless the lancer is very good. Also something of a bonus of using a spear is that it seems most people expect you to try and stab; so they walk up with a downblock, grinning and thinking they're getting an easy kill until you smack them across the head with a sideswing.

Seriously though, spears and lances are fine as is. All I see with people complaining about the short range thrusts is crying because they want to pwn moar newbz, and are saddened when they get beaten by an underdog weapon.