Author Topic: Hoplite Viable?  (Read 6238 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline 1slander

  • Peasant
  • *
  • Renown: 6
  • Infamy: 0
  • cRPG Player
  • Timing that sidestep is key to the 1h battle axe
    • View Profile
  • Faction: NORD
  • Game nicks: Araios, Pallas, Hammer. Formerly DRAC & Duke_of_Hazard
Hoplite Viable?
« on: February 20, 2011, 11:19:22 pm »
0
Considering going HOPLITE next retirement just for something different. 

Have people tried this alot and is it viable?

Probably go hybrid Polearm/Throwing - Using say the battle fork with a huscarl shield and jarids.

Seem gimp? 
Float like a butterfly sting like an axe

Offline balbaroth

  • Peasant
  • *
  • Renown: 6
  • Infamy: 1
  • cRPG Player
    • View Profile
Re: Hoplite Viable?
« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2011, 11:25:30 pm »
0
well , id say if your good with polearms , its viable , but i can count my fingers with 1 hand the number of succesfuls hoplites

Offline Patricia

  • Baron
  • ****
  • Renown: 108
  • Infamy: 78
  • cRPG Player
    • View Profile
Re: Hoplite Viable?
« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2011, 11:30:42 pm »
0
Hoplites are a support build/class more than anything else, in team, the enemy will HATE you but alone you're not much of a problem.

Offline EponiCo

  • Baron
  • ****
  • Renown: 92
  • Infamy: 15
  • cRPG Player
    • View Profile
  • Faction: Caravan Guild
  • Game nicks: Guard_Aine
Re: Hoplite Viable?
« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2011, 11:33:14 pm »
0
It's a funny way to play.
But you have two problems, obviously only one attack direction and also the short range thrust glance. You need an ally around to take care of people that get to close, you can support him with stabs in turn.

Offline WaltF4

  • Baron
  • ****
  • Renown: 131
  • Infamy: 2
  • cRPG Player
    • View Profile
Re: Hoplite Viable?
« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2011, 11:57:22 pm »
0
Considering going HOPLITE next retirement just for something different.

Prepare to be underwhelmed.

Offline Gorath

  • Count
  • *****
  • Renown: 226
  • Infamy: 168
  • cRPG Player
  • Why the hell did I do anything other than ranged?
    • View Profile
  • Faction: Chaos
  • Game nicks: The threat of physical violence should be present in all things
  • IRC nick: Otherwise we get a swarm of faggot children like the majority of the cRPG/Internet population
Re: Hoplite Viable?
« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2011, 12:08:35 am »
0
Fun - Very
Viable - No (any average player will counter your hoplite by downblocking forever thus rendering you useless)
And I should be nice or polite to anyone.... why exactly?

Offline 1slander

  • Peasant
  • *
  • Renown: 6
  • Infamy: 0
  • cRPG Player
  • Timing that sidestep is key to the 1h battle axe
    • View Profile
  • Faction: NORD
  • Game nicks: Araios, Pallas, Hammer. Formerly DRAC & Duke_of_Hazard
Re: Hoplite Viable?
« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2011, 01:24:46 am »
0
Prepare to be underwhelmed.

LoL

Prob pass on Hoplite
Float like a butterfly sting like an axe

Offline Formless

  • Baron
  • ****
  • Renown: 102
  • Infamy: 74
  • cRPG Player A Gentleman and a Scholar
    • View Profile
Re: Hoplite Viable?
« Reply #7 on: February 21, 2011, 01:27:20 am »
0
Civilian does really well as a hoptile.  Walt F4 is also very good as a hoptile.   
“Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.” - Bruce Lee

Offline Nemeth

  • Knight
  • ***
  • Renown: 34
  • Infamy: 6
  • cRPG Player
    • View Profile
  • Game nicks: Nemeth
  • IRC nick: Nemeth
Re: Hoplite Viable?
« Reply #8 on: February 21, 2011, 01:32:49 am »
0
As was said, hoplite is support more than anything. You need a buddy who you will be runing around with and augment his attacks with your stabs. It is very effective if done well. If you find yourself alone against someone, your only chance is to put shield on your back and play classic polearm dude. I would suggest warspear, as it has no penalty with shield and overall is very good polearm.
But yeah, you really need to pick someone on your team and stick with him. If you're part of a clan, it would be easier to do some coordinated stuff which would make you shine.
I wouldn't say hoplite is not viable. It is, just very hard to pull off as it doesn't depend on you how well you will be doing.
« Last Edit: February 21, 2011, 01:52:26 am by Nemeth »

Offline ManOfWar

  • Count
  • *****
  • Renown: 243
  • Infamy: 36
  • cRPG Player Sir Black Pawn A Gentleman and a Scholar
  • No crutches at all!
    • View Profile
  • Faction: Remnants
  • Game nicks: Remnant_ManOfWar (Formerly Takeda)
  • IRC nick: ManOfWar
Re: Hoplite Viable?
« Reply #9 on: February 21, 2011, 01:40:48 am »
0
Patch raped walts effectiveness
Just a soldier

Offline KaMiKaZe_JoE

  • Marshall
  • ********
  • Renown: 904
  • Infamy: 117
  • cRPG Player
    • View Profile
  • Faction: Cavalieres
  • Game nicks: KaMiKaZe _______
Re: Hoplite Viable?
« Reply #10 on: February 21, 2011, 02:07:08 am »
0
polearm+sheild works well. I went full-on hoplite with my first character, although I wasted points in 1h weapons. I also didn't try throwing.

But over all it was amazingly fun, especially on crowded maps that force phalanx type combat/cluster fucks. Like the bridge maps. 1 on 1 combat is difficult, however you can beat the average player with a little skill. Many underestimate polearm+sheild users.
"I don't think I'd want to meet anyone from cRPG. Sorry no offense lol" -TG

Offline Zanthos

  • Peasant
  • *
  • Renown: 7
  • Infamy: 3
  • cRPG Player
    • View Profile
  • Faction: White Company
  • Game nicks: Zanthos_WCo
  • IRC nick: Zanthos
Re: Hoplite Viable?
« Reply #11 on: February 21, 2011, 02:30:53 am »
0
Patch raped walts effectiveness

I'd still say he is quite effective. WaltF4, Civilian, Noobie, Ozymandius, Suuuper(sp?)... all still quite effective with it. It's all about support and the right scenarios. You won't be scoring a lot of 1 hit kills but you will do plenty of damage and annoy the hell out of enemies and stun them (opening them up for a friendly to kill). Some are better at 1v1 than others as well.. especially if they drop the shield.

Offline Tigerclaw

  • Beggar
  • Renown: 0
  • Infamy: 0
  • cRPG Player
    • View Profile
  • Faction: Diadochi
  • Game nicks: Tigerclaw
Re: Hoplite Viable?
« Reply #12 on: February 21, 2011, 03:35:22 am »
0
I play a hoplite/one-hand/thrower hybrid most of the time, and I find that it works quite well. I use a war spear when fighting in a group with teammates, and generally switch to my niuweidao when I fight alone, and throwing comes in handy versus archers and two-handers. So while I'd hesitate to go as a pure hoplite, hybrid hoplites work very well, especially if you give yourself a backup melee option.

Offline 1slander

  • Peasant
  • *
  • Renown: 6
  • Infamy: 0
  • cRPG Player
  • Timing that sidestep is key to the 1h battle axe
    • View Profile
  • Faction: NORD
  • Game nicks: Araios, Pallas, Hammer. Formerly DRAC & Duke_of_Hazard
Re: Hoplite Viable?
« Reply #13 on: February 21, 2011, 03:42:34 am »
0
may try to 15 then just reroll if i hate it
Float like a butterfly sting like an axe

Offline Civilian

  • Knight
  • ***
  • Renown: 47
  • Infamy: 6
  • cRPG Player A Gentleman and a Scholar
    • View Profile
  • Game nicks: Civilian_ATS
Re: Hoplite Viable?
« Reply #14 on: February 21, 2011, 04:11:37 pm »
0
My build as a Hoplite with late decision to go into throwing.

Age   45 [30]

Strength   15   
Agility   21   

Polearm   152
Throwing   30
   
Power Strike   5   
Shield   6   
Athletics   7      
Power Throw   5   
Weapon master *   6

Viable - No (any average player will counter your hoplite by downblocking forever thus rendering you useless)
This is why I went into throwing. People who play defensive against a Pure hoplite tend to be more difficult to kill.
« Last Edit: February 21, 2011, 04:20:21 pm by Civilian »