Crush-Through on Bar Mace and Long Iron Mace

[ViiKOLD]

Ok. In that case - "cool story bro" 

[UrLukur]

Ok. In that case - "cool story bro" 

Do you know guys like Templar_Daymun or Kapikulu_Robin_Hood? They both have all time crushing barmace builds. Ganon also have one.

[ViiKOLD]

Get an axe.  You can hack through any shield relatively quickly.  Why is it that folks tend to want 1h/shield players to become easy kills all the time?

Agree, beside axe have a better reach. But it's not that fun, part of amusement is tosee how some shielder start "ape shit" as soon as you pull out great maul 

[Ache]

CT is ok ( im using it myself and it is awesome  ) but it brings many disadvantages ( archers cant hurt me but throwing keeps killing me) but anyway, i dont know any topscorer except of me using barmace.
 So just stop crying about that bad guy crushing through your little 1h sword with his mighty barmace ( heavy barmace, gen 3) and learn how to evade, backpedel is a serious problem for me because barmaces weaponreach is very short (96).

P.S.
If CT gets removed the "unbalanced" bonus has to be removed too, or i want to change my heirlooms.

[Patricia]

Unbalanced bonus? lolwhat.

[Ache]

Heavy Bar Mace   3090   weight 5
requirement 13
spd rtng 92
weapon length 96
swing damage 38, blunt
thrust damage 0 blunt
Crushtrhough
Unbalanced
Knockdown

[Siiem]

P.S.
If CT gets removed the "unbalanced" bonus has to be removed too, or i want to change my heirlooms.

Oh no don't change your heirlooms whatever you do don't dooooo thaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat.... omigawd we have to accept his demands, we got to.

[Ache]

+1 troll points for this shit 

[cmp]

If CT gets removed the "unbalanced" bonus has to be removed too, or i want to change my heirlooms.

Crushtrough gets removed, unbalanced doesn't, you don't get to change your heirlooms.

[UrLukur]

Crushtrough gets removed, unbalanced doesn't, you don't get to change your heirlooms.

Hope patch is sooner than latter.

[Gorath]

Crushtrough gets removed, unbalanced doesn't, you don't get to change your heirlooms.

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[Blackstone]

This thread, CMPXCHG8B, was started with the following statement. Would appreciate if you could address it.

Why take away a core function of the item, rather than re-balance the heirlooms to ensure that they don't get 90% crush-through

[Mouse]

The bar mace does BLUNT damage. Do you not realize how spectacular that is? It's one of the most powerful anti-armor weapons a 2H character can use, entirely worth using without crush, and entirely worth having heirloomed without crush. If your opponent has a shield then try using an axe or bardiche instead. They exist for a reason, you know. Use the right tool for the job.

[cmp]

This thread, CMPXCHG8B, was started with the following statement. Would appreciate if you could address it.

Ok.
It doesn't make sense from a balance point of view, it's a very powerful mechanic that has no place whatsoever on weapons with 90+ speed / 80+ length.
It doesn't make sense from a realism point of view, especially with a shape/distribution of weight like the Bar Mace.
Therefore, it doesn't make any sense -> removed.

If changing the crush-through calculation and mechanics was possible, we could have found another solution. Unfortunately, it's not.

[Elmetiacos]

Ok.
It doesn't make sense from a balance point of view, it's a very powerful mechanic that has no place whatsoever on weapons with 90+ speed / 80+ length.
It doesn't make sense from a realism point of view, especially with a shape/distribution of weight like the Bar Mace.
Therefore, it doesn't make any sense -> removed.

However, it is a real weapon from early 16th Century England. Go search.