50 WPP - worthy or pointless?

[Danath]

I am a cav and considering putting 50 WPP to polearms for use only with LANCES. I do not intend to melee with polearms.

Is 50WPP for polearm just a waste of points if lancing only or will it make a decent difference to my lancing?

[Maximus101]

I wouldn't bother tbh.

[[ptx]]

I will give you 25k gold for those, deal?

[Blackpoint]

If you just take a joustig lance you dont need to skill polearm

I was onehanded cav 1gen and its awesome.Take jousting lance its fucking cheap bust best to get a free kill .!

Try the jousting lance not allways onehit but its enough to kill someone!

[Danath]

I use the great lance currently, beats jousting lance, but yeah same principle, couching.

More opinions on the 50 WPP to polearms...

[Renten]

It depends on what you would be taking it out of and the total score of that stat would have minus the loss it would take. Basically if its high enough the difference will only be 3-4 points and it will hardly matter aside from some really rare occasions.

[Tears of Destiny]

It will cut the chance for repairs roughly in half, maybe more, for your lance. beyond that, not really useful.

Oh, and 50 wpf instead of 1 means your damage will be base 92.5% instead of 85%.

[Ujin]

I have 61 in polearms just for lancing ( although you can even somewhat succesfully fight with polearms as inf. too). I say it's worth it .

[Kafein]

50 wpf is only useful to reduce upkeep. And upkeep from a lance isn't your main concern at all.

Other than that, if you have a decent armor, there's not much wpf left after the weight malus is applicated. Generally, splitting wpf points in a 50/50 fashion is only advisable with medium armor or lower, so having only 50 points is pretty much useless.

Furthermore, if you are good with 0wpf, maybe you are better not spending any points. Wpf will increase your damage, but shorten your active attacking time window, forcing you to time your releases better.

[Danath]

That part about the armor killing off the WPP concerns me, is there a particular formula or such? No point doing it if it ends up being 10WPP that's used (wear about 40 body armor)... no idea about the calc... concerns though.

Only reason I want to use a regular heavy lance is for the rare times I face enemy cav, and they keep out ranging me, or if vsing someone with a 200+ range spear of some sort, the great lance couching is tough in these cases

[Torben]

you should listen to this guy,  he is somewhat a legend.

I have 61 in polearms just for lancing ( although you can even somewhat succesfully fight with polearms as inf. too). I say it's worth it .

[BADPLAYERold]

As far as I know, speed bonus is based on weapon speed with slower weapons having a bigger speed bonus. So the increase in speed/damage you get from more WPF in polearms works out at about the same damage as 1wpf lancing if you get some speed bonus on your attacks. I'm not sure if this is actually true or just a rumour but I have done enough 1WPF cavalry builds to know there isn't much of a difference and you are best off just throwing all your WPF into the weapon type you plan to use when not on a horse.

[FRANK_THE_TANK]

Danath what is your build?

18/18?

I'm running a 15/21 atm, give my 87 in throw and 150 in 1h. 150 is plenty of 1h I find it works pretty well 7 shield certainly helps

[ArchonAlarion]

It will cut the chance for repairs roughly in half, maybe more, for your lance. beyond that, not really useful.

Can anyone inform me fully about how this works? I wasn't aware of this before.

[Tears of Destiny]

The more wpf you have the less chance of an item breaking if it is a weapon (not sure this applies to arrow ammunition to be honest).
At 1 wpf this will be around 11% or so break chance, where as 140 gives about 2.5% according to the studies run by whatshis/her face a few months ago. Obviously if using an expensive weapon you will care very quickly about this. The exact formula is not available to the public for whatever reasons.

This wpf relation to break chances have been around for a while (perhaps to help weed out all of the people who used crossbows as untrained sidearms)