2h-cav

[Fips]

Morningstar on cav without a shield uses 2h-wpf, right?
If it does, i'm not quite sure which build i should go for. I guess the arabian would be the best choice, because bump-slash is probably the way to go, so i will need at least 7 riding. But 15/21 won't do it for me, 5 PS is just not enough. Or should i just get a courser and go for 18/18?

Any experienced cav could give me an advise? =D

[Maximus101]

Although I'd hardly call myself experienced I am going for 2 hander cav this gen myself. It is very good with morningstar as I can 1 hit almost anything and be effective once my horse is down also. I am using a 21/15 build but I will probably go for 18/18 or 18/21 next time. I am using full 2 hander wpf and tbh bump slashing is working fine destrier and even a rouncey when I am a bit short on money xD. Morningstar works great but I have also been trying war axe. Nice damage and cheap repairs- works great.

[Fips]

Although I'd hardly call myself experienced I am going for 2 hander cav this gen myself. It is very good with morningstar as I can 1 hit almost anything and be effective once my horse is down also. I am using a 21/15 build but I will probably go for 18/18 or 18/21 next time. I am using full 2 hander wpf and tbh bump slashing is working fine destrier and even a rouncey when I am a bit short on money xD. Morningstar works great but I have also been trying war axe. Nice damage and cheap repairs- works great.

Great, so i really don't need to get 6 riding =)
Just wanted to make sure i'm not missing a lot if i can't get on a courser or an arabian warhorse^^

Then i probably will go for 21/15. I am 24/15 pure 2h right now and i am doing fine with just 5 WM and 5 ATH. 7IF and 7 PS will do the job on siege as well.

[Uumdi]

Just a thought too - if you don't pump Weaponmaster or Shield, its possible to convert enough times for a 21/21 or an 18/24 build.  I rode a +2 courser with 8 riding and a longsword, and it was pretty disgusting, but it all depends on your playstyle.  5 Riding is probably enough.

[Fips]

Just a thought too - if you don't pump Weaponmaster or Shield, its possible to convert enough times for a 21/21 or an 18/24 build.  I rode a +2 courser with 8 riding and a longsword, and it was pretty disgusting, but it all depends on your playstyle.  5 Riding is probably enough.

Nah. Since HRE is playing mostly on siege servers, just 3 points for ath or weaponmaster is not enough for me.

[Vibe]

Everkistus is using 7 riding and champion arabian and is doing very well as a 2h cav.

I'm a 2h cav myself, but I'm 18/21 infantry build with 3 points to riding from leveling to 31. I still do well with my rouncey though, enough speed to 1-2 shot most people with a loomed morningstar

Either way you won't be killing people who pay attention, atleast most of them. 2h cav is still the worst of the cavalry classes. But it's quite challenging to play, lots of fun for me.

[Casimir]

I cant help much with build advice im afraid as i gave up with lvl 30 along time ago.

I'll add my input for what its worth on 2h cav though.

A.) Heavy cavalry is your friend. 2h cav, with its lack of ranged protection can suffer at the hands of a good archer or 2. Don't waste your precious riding points on getting your horse 2 shot and buy a real one with some armor.

B.) Although unaware archers and engaged infantry are easy kills remember that you are seen as a large easy target with more gold than brains. USE THIS. Make yourself the target utilise the ignorance of people regarding 2h cav. Lul them into the false sence of security then strike with fast swinging pierce damage of death.

C.) Show no fear. Do not be afraid to take on lancers. The time they spend chasing you is time they cant spend killing pesants to help their e-peen syndrome.  Charging foes head on aswell can be suprisingly effective but defo requries atleast a destrier.

D.) As with 1h cav use the bump. Its your greatest ally, maybe not your teamates. (hence why i spend most my time typing 'sorry'.

E.) 2h cav is a mans cavalry. Feel free to behave as a true gentleman should and give up your steed to a fellow in need. Timely delivery of your horse to a good lancer my old friend like tommyyy or oberyn can swing the battle in your favour. Remember you'll be far more effective off the horse than one of those guys with their silly poles of compensation.


Final note from me on 2h cav. Make sure you let thomek (the hater) know how much fun you have as 2h cav and tell him he should try it as you bump slash him in the face.

Good luck my good men, see you on the field!

Cas - 2h cav

[Vibe]

Either way, welcome to 2h cav. We're now a total of 4 or 5. 

[Fips]

I cant help much with build advice im afraid as i gave up with lvl 30 along time ago.

I'll add my input for what its worth on 2h cav though.

A.) Heavy cavalry is your friend. 2h cav, with its lack of ranged protection can suffer at the hands of a good archer or 2. Don't waste your precious riding points on getting your horse 2 shot and buy a real one with some armor.

B.) Although unaware archers and engaged infantry are easy kills remember that you are seen as a large easy target with more gold than brains. USE THIS. Make yourself the target utilise the ignorance of people regarding 2h cav. Lul them into the false sence of security then strike with fast swinging pierce damage of death.

C.) Show no fear. Do not be afraid to take on lancers. The time they spend chasing you is time they cant spend killing pesants to help their e-peen syndrome.  Charging foes head on aswell can be suprisingly effective but defo requries atleast a destrier.

D.) As with 1h cav use the bump. Its your greatest ally, maybe not your teamates. (hence why i spend most my time typing 'sorry'.

E.) 2h cav is a mans cavalry. Feel free to behave as a true gentleman should and give up your steed to a fellow in need. Timely delivery of your horse to a good lancer my old friend like tommyyy or oberyn can swing the battle in your favour. Remember you'll be far more effective off the horse than one of those guys with their silly poles of compensation.


Final note from me on 2h cav. Make sure you let thomek (the hater) know how much fun you have as 2h cav and tell him he should try it as you bump slash him in the face.

Good luck my good men, see you on the field!

Cas - 2h cav

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[Paul]

I'll just leave this here. Level > 30 chars.

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    type,            kills,    deaths,    k/d
    horse 1h,        171782,   99282,     1.7302
    horse 2h,        66700,    34920,     1.9101
    horse archer,    50498,    35053,     1.4406
    horse n/a,       2573,     1946,      1.3222
    horse pole,      162477,   76160,     2.1334
    horse thrower,   24618,    14588,     1.6876
    horse xbow,      3746,     3081,      1.2158

[Vibe]

Nice stats. Does it count only when we're using 2h on a horse, or when we're on foot too (aka tracks by riding skill only)?
Because I have a lot better KD when on foot.

[Casimir]

Don't get what the stats have to do with anything...

[Dezilagel]

They show that you are not as

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[Lorenzo_of_Iberia]

Remember as 2h cav that you will struggle to take on a good lancer, ha will chase you down and no spear armed infantry is afraid of you

but seriously Caismir one of the few 2h cav that play the class well so I would listen to him (especially about taking a heavy horses).

All I would say is there are not many 2h weapons that work 'well' off horse so pick which one you take carefully but dont be scared to experiment with unlikely candidates! Might discover the new thing ;)

[Teeth]

I'll just leave this here. Level > 30 chars.

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    type,            kills,    deaths,    k/d
    horse 1h,        171782,   99282,     1.7302
    horse 2h,        66700,    34920,     1.9101
    horse archer,    50498,    35053,     1.4406
    horse n/a,       2573,     1946,      1.3222
    horse pole,      162477,   76160,     2.1334
    horse thrower,   24618,    14588,     1.6876
    horse xbow,      3746,     3081,      1.2158

The hell? K/D of 1,91 for above level 30 2h cav? Half of those are probably Royyyaanns. Still only 2,5 times as much kills by lancer cav than 2h cav. I feel like the 2h/pole cav ratio is like 1 to 10.

Paul can't you publish these stats like monthly, or atleast once for all classes. Stat nerds like me would like it. I would prefer it if it would be shown from lvl 30 though. Not above 30. The bulk of the playerbase is lvl 30.