chadz, we want the classic version of CRPG

[Polobow]

You guys keep making the mistake - that was the tail end of old cRPG, if its fully reset, months of gameplay goes on before this happens.  Gold was much harder to make and it was a big talked about thing when the first person bought a plated charger 5 months into that cRPG version.  GOLD was REALLY REALLY hard to make.  you average 200 gold a minute now, back then with peasant wars at beginning you made 1-2 gold per kill you were near if your team won the round, 25% of that if you lost, which came out to about averaging to 7 gold a minute.

But thine hard work will pay off, because once you buy it, it's permament with no fees.

[Keshian]

Stop with your goofy derailing whatif bring it back altered this post is about CLASSIC! you don't order a cheeseburger then alter the order so much it is a double swiss and lettuce burger! SHIT. This Post is about CLASSIC! 100 percent oldschool I wouldn't play super mario bro's if it was 3d. Shit I gave up mario because it sucked dick as a 3d plat former. I like my mario 2d I like my Zelda 2d I like my crpg CLASSIC and I like my fighters like guilty gears and soul calibur/Tekken

So much of this, yes.

Polobow - yes and that is why it got imbalanced (AFTER over 4 months of playing), but to look at the last 2 months only and ignore the incredible amount of fun leading up to it is silly.  People averaged worse gear back then with less looms up until near the end.  And that is the easisest fix of all - full reset every 4-5 months, whcih not a big deal since it is not the main cRPG.  It is incredibly fun and I for one would be so much interested in playing cRPG again (been playing a bunch of other games lately as I get bored with cRPG).

The new system basically favored getting new players in, but with a prettye stablished communitya dn EVERYONE starting as peasants at the same time, its not as important to make sure everyoneand their brother gets to have plate armor after only a few hours playing.  back then it took AGES to get better gear and each item was precious to you because you didnt just trade it in for something else because it really cost something.  Nowadays I cna buy anything I want,s ell it and buy it all over again, because it doesn't matter when you can make 250 gold in a minute.

[PanPan]

But thine hard work will pay off, because once you buy it, it's permament with no fees.

Indeed, Indeed
But You get Gold then for example a bow costs like 10k gold and you have the 10k gold and you buy the bow and then U don't need to pay upkeep.

EDIT: Repairs are veeery important but still... when you sell a loom point you've got enough money for repairs and you ahve your old cRPG back.

[Keshian]

Also, whoever does the NA servers for this, i would like to request to be an admin as I expect to be playing there a lot and I feel very invested in keeping it as honest and (intentional) tk-free as the official cRPG servers.

[CrazyCracka420]

I like you idea kesh.  Full resets after 6 months or so would be great (or some agreed upon interval).  Even for the regular c-rpg I think this would be a great idea.

I know that the idea was to make a "Persisent", continual system similar to single player but for multiplayer.  But I'd say 6 months is persistent enough.  I think that would really alleviate a lot of the issues the dev's struggle with when it comes to balancing classes and equipment.

[Greziz]

Kesh if they bring this back I want to see you balbaroth and every old hero of olden days fall before my glorious sniper xbow or mashum stick.

[Greziz]

Man I feel sad I am more excited over old school crpg than I am about the prospect of diablo 3 or kotor online or pretty much any game to come out in the last 4 years. FUCK GAMING WHY DOES IT ALL JUST Start as a single glorious golden sphere and then just roll down into shit valley and stagnate as just another generic brown sphere of regretted changes?

[PanPan]

OPEN A WHOLE NEW MOD KINDA LIKE THE CRPG WICH IS NOAW!
AND PLAY FROM A PEASANT AGAIN! (or a funny weekend- event where everyone is at lvl 5 max )

[Keshian]

Man I feel sad I am more excited over old school crpg than I am about the prospect of diablo 3 or kotor online or pretty much any game to come out in the last 4 years. FUCK GAMING WHY DOES IT ALL JUST Start as a single glorious golden sphere and then just roll down into shit valley and stagnate as just another generic brown sphere of regretted changes?

But what about... oh wait no, that game sucks., but wait isnt... nope they changed it to shit.  You are dead-on right.  I would look forward more to having old cRPG brought back even if only 1 NA server then just about any game I can think of.  I have been playing a lot of Killing Floor in the last week, but like most shooter games, Ic ans ee myself getting bored after a little bit.  And its going to take you about 1-2 momths before you can afford a sniper xbow, you will have to be satisfied killing me with my short bow of doom using only a non-nerfed hunting xbow.

[hippy_with_a_scimi]

Kesh if they bring this back I want to see you balbaroth and every old hero of olden days fall before my glorious sniper xbow or mashum stick.

thoses were the fucking days when you could snipe me from across the map , while i was slaughtering people nonetheless !

 Then again you were a rare breed , one of the xbow dagger pioneer...   

then everybody started using xbows...

 God this current crpg sucks ass

[Greziz]

Hunting bow back then was respectable sting I think it did 52 dmg? Shit I can gack you with that.

[Osiris]

I dont really miss the old version that much (i was very annoyed that i finally had managed to buy a heavy horse for my cav and a decent set then boom upkeep ) but about the proximity to action vs multi.

I like the multiplier idea but balancing does need to be re worked a little. As for promoting more team work i dont think it does. I think i saw many more epic shieldwalls etc in old crpg. If anything i miss the shieldwalls

[Greziz]

Shield walls are retarded arrow soaks all your achieving by standing close knit and not moving is playing target for every archer on the map. A moving cluster fuck with shields in it charging is much more effective than the ok every one line up and place your shield and try to move orderly. as it never quite works out as you want it to.

[CrazyCracka420]

Man I feel sad I am more excited over old school crpg than I am about the prospect of diablo 3 or kotor online or pretty much any game to come out in the last 4 years. FUCK GAMING WHY DOES IT ALL JUST Start as a single glorious golden sphere and then just roll down into shit valley and stagnate as just another generic brown sphere of regretted changes?

Trying too hard to appease the masses.  People don't flock to the forums to give their input when they like something about a game.  For the most part (and it's true in the IT profession especially), people don't give you feedback when things work well, or they like the way things are.  You're going to get feedback (and the most feedback) when someone doesn't like something.

So for all the devs know, the game is beloved by the majority of players, but I'm guessing they really only hear people bitching. So if enough people bitch and complain they may get a false negative that people generally are unhappy about topic "x, y or z".  And specifically for this mod I think they tried too hard to keep everything balanced and will never appease everyone.

[Vexus]

I still remember the days with phazh explaining strategies and moving in shield walls formations to the enemies

He does it from time to time but don't know now since I barely log as I am not having that much fun playing as archer bait.