Author Topic: High Strength Shielder  (Read 5076 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Toffey

  • Noble
  • **
  • Renown: 13
  • Infamy: 0
  • cRPG Player
    • View Profile
High Strength Shielder
« on: December 12, 2011, 02:39:56 am »
0
After playing as a fairly normal shielder (24/15) for my first gen, I'm thinking of doing something a bit different:

Level 31 (8 892 403 xp)

    Strength: 33
    Agility: 9

    Skills to attributes: 12

    Power Strike: 11
    Shield: 3
    Athletics: 3
    Weapon Master: 3

    One Handed: 132

So, is this at all practical? What would be the best way to make use of the 11 power strike, and compensate for the low athletics and shield, and non-existent iron flesh?

Offline HarunYahya

  • Marshall
  • ********
  • Renown: 965
  • Infamy: 309
  • cRPG Player
  • Proud Abdulla wielder
    • View Profile
  • Faction: BashiBazouks
  • Game nicks: HarunYahya,HarunShootya,Inan
  • IRC nick: HarunYahya
Re: High Strength Shielder
« Reply #1 on: December 12, 2011, 02:58:52 am »
+1
Are you a masochist ?

Offline Zanze

  • Earl
  • ******
  • Renown: 366
  • Infamy: 69
  • cRPG Player
    • View Profile
  • Faction: Ravens of Valhalla
  • Game nicks: Raven_Zan
Re: High Strength Shielder
« Reply #2 on: December 12, 2011, 04:59:01 am »
0
Too slow. Get 4 Athletics.

Offline rustyspoon

  • Marshall
  • ********
  • Renown: 794
  • Infamy: 164
  • cRPG Player A Gentleman and a Scholar
    • View Profile
  • Game nicks: Rustyspoon, Sir_Rusty_Of_Spoon, Rusty_the_Spoonarian
Re: High Strength Shielder
« Reply #3 on: December 12, 2011, 05:15:13 am »
+1
Well first off, everyone will run circles around you and you'll have trouble getting in range of competent players. Not too mention that str scales TERRIBLY on 1-handers. For example:

With this build you'll need a relatively long weapon with decent damage. Let's say you go with an Elite Scimitar. It has good length, good speed and decent damage. It's base damage is 31. Now, apply your 88% damage bonus and you're looking at an increase of 27.28 points of damage which will bring you to 58.28 points of damage.

Now, compare it to a current popular 2 hander the Danish. Danish is slower, but MUCH longer which can help you with your low athletics. It's base damage is 40. Now, its 88% damage increase is 35.2 which will bring you to 75.2 damage per swing.

1-handers just don't benefit as much from str builds due to their lower initial damage combined with their slower movement speed due to shield.

So yeah, I think you'll have a shitty time with a build like that.
visitors can't see pics , please register or login

Offline MrShine

  • Ragdoll Basher
  • King
  • **********
  • Renown: 1156
  • Infamy: 193
  • cRPG Player A Gentleman and a Scholar
  • Fear the stache
    • View Profile
  • Game nicks: MrShine
Re: High Strength Shielder
« Reply #4 on: December 12, 2011, 05:23:34 am »
0
I agree that build seems a bit too slow.  Also your shield will break frequently.

However I will say I've had great success with a 24/12 shielder:
8IF
8PS
4Shield
4Ath
4WM
1 into...throwing or whatever.

If you are building for level 31 (not recommended) then I suggest converting skill points and putting 4 into riding at the end.

Biggest issues:
-you need to know when not to swing at a backpeddler
-you need to be ready to manual block if your shield breaks
Holy crap I have a youtube gaming channel! https://www.youtube.com/user/MrShine12345

Offline San

  • Developer
  • ******
  • Renown: 1456
  • Infamy: 143
  • cRPG Player A Gentleman and a Scholar
  • 1/Sympathy = Divide By Zero
    • View Profile
    • My youtube Brawl videos
  • Faction: Chaos
  • Game nicks: San_of_Chaos
  • IRC nick: San
Re: High Strength Shielder
« Reply #5 on: December 12, 2011, 05:26:36 am »
0
I believe STR shielder is decent as long as you pump up the ironflesh. Without ironflesh, there really isn't too much of a point. I suggest lowering STR to 30 or 27 so you can build your ironflesh up. The extra PS isn't worth the sacrifice.

I think as long as you utilize your shield, you shouldn't have too much trouble approaching someone. You have to be aware of your build and what role you play in battle, though.


While leveling up, I recommend keeping your AGI at 9 and build up your strength. If you're still comfortable with that speed, keep building up strength, otherwise build your agi up.

Offline The_danish_lost_viking

  • Knight
  • ***
  • Renown: 53
  • Infamy: 32
  • cRPG Player
  • WAR DOGS
    • View Profile
  • Faction: WAR DOGS
  • Game nicks: W_D_Maddane
Re: High Strength Shielder
« Reply #6 on: December 12, 2011, 05:33:01 am »
0
I have 6 Athletics. I dont need to hit hard as a shielder. I have 5 ironflesh and 5 powerstrike, when my weapon is masterwork it hit harder.
I have 5 shield i Think its fine, now i work on my weaponmaster i like to have min. 5 in that too
visitors can't see pics , please register or login

Offline Rhygar666

  • Count
  • *****
  • Renown: 230
  • Infamy: 107
  • cRPG Player A Gentleman and a Scholar
  • möp
    • View Profile
  • Faction: HRE
  • Game nicks: Rhygay666_HRE
Re: High Strength Shielder
« Reply #7 on: December 12, 2011, 06:10:27 am »
0
the rest is mentioned so i skip that part but with 3 shield skill:
your shield will break every round, bolts will just fly trough it.
visitors can't see pics , please register or login

Offline PieParadox

  • Count
  • *****
  • Renown: 219
  • Infamy: 61
  • cRPG Player
    • View Profile
  • Game nicks: PieParadox
Re: High Strength Shielder
« Reply #8 on: December 12, 2011, 06:50:48 am »
0
What rustyspoons is right.

I think that if you're gonna go a strength build, go with 2h or polearm. The point of a shielder if to have a good shield and use it well without breaking after 5 hits. Might as well go 2h/pole and invest 1-2 points in shield. 1h is gimped already.

Offline The_danish_lost_viking

  • Knight
  • ***
  • Renown: 53
  • Infamy: 32
  • cRPG Player
  • WAR DOGS
    • View Profile
  • Faction: WAR DOGS
  • Game nicks: W_D_Maddane
Re: High Strength Shielder
« Reply #9 on: December 12, 2011, 07:02:27 am »
0
Here is my build:

Available points: 0
Strength   15   
Agility   18   
Weapon proficiency

One Handed   143   
Two Handed   1
Polearm   1   
Archery   1   
Crossbow   1   
Throwing   1   
Skills

Iron Flesh   5   
Power Strike   5   
Shield   5   
Athletics   6   
Riding   0   
Horse Archery   0   
Power Draw   0   
Power Throw   0   
Weapon Master   5   

Now i want more weapon master
« Last Edit: December 12, 2011, 07:03:44 am by The_danish_lost_viking »
visitors can't see pics , please register or login

Offline Xant

  • Finnish Pony
  • King
  • **********
  • Renown: 1552
  • Infamy: 803
  • cRPG Player
    • View Profile
Re: High Strength Shielder
« Reply #10 on: December 12, 2011, 07:29:25 am »
0
15-18 is a horribly gimped level 30 build, so I hope it's not that. Besides, it has more agi than str, OP is asking about str shielders.

24-15 is really as far as you want to go with strength builds. Unless >level 31, then 27-15 might be an option.
Meaning lies as much
in the mind of the reader
as in the Haiku.

Offline Lansamur

  • Count
  • *****
  • Renown: 232
  • Infamy: 46
  • cRPG Player A Gentleman and a Scholar
    • View Profile
  • Game nicks: Lansamur, The_Prisoner,Beer_Storage, Carebear_Ravenei
  • IRC nick: Lansamur
Re: High Strength Shielder
« Reply #11 on: December 12, 2011, 08:04:03 am »
+1
24-15 is really as far as you want to go with strength builds. Unless >level 31, then 27-15 might be an option.

This.
If in doubt, always carry a Crushthtorugh with you and have some fun. 24/15 gives you enogh power to 1hit archers (backhand swing needed!) and get a tincan down in 3-4 hits (again, backhand swing). Even in heavy armor, you're still fast enough to beat agi-builds with scimitar/knightly heatershield spammers with the right timing and good footwork.
[22:17] <@chadz> congratz cmpxchg8b, you managed to put 995 errors into the item sheet!
[22:17] <@cmpxchg8b> epic winning
[22:17] <@cmpxchg8b> beat that Fasader

Offline Furax

  • Noble
  • **
  • Renown: 15
  • Infamy: 9
  • cRPG Player
    • View Profile
Re: High Strength Shielder
« Reply #12 on: December 12, 2011, 09:21:07 am »
0
You will rage with this build.

Offline Dezilagel

  • Marshall
  • ********
  • Renown: 722
  • Infamy: 209
  • cRPG Player
  • (X) probably goes well with Nutella
    • View Profile
  • Faction: Guards, Guards!
  • Game nicks: Dezi_the_Bagel
  • IRC nick: Dezilagel
Re: High Strength Shielder
« Reply #13 on: December 12, 2011, 09:45:17 am »
0
Convert that shield skill to IF, use some light armor and voíla! A decent build.

Now personally, that build looks waay too slow for me but I did have a 24-15 stf noshield 1h guy and I can tell you that was a really good build.

Iberian mace ftw.

visitors can't see pics , please register or login

Quote from: Rumblood
You fuck, or you get fucked.
Valour Multghulis - All Krems Must Die

Offline B3RS3RK

  • Earl
  • ******
  • Renown: 377
  • Infamy: 103
  • cRPG Player
  • Sexy and I know it.
    • View Profile
  • Game nicks: Saracen_Berserkaziz_Amir
Re: High Strength Shielder
« Reply #14 on: December 12, 2011, 09:52:00 am »
0
the rest is mentioned so i skip that part but with 3 shield skill:
your shield will break every round, bolts will just fly trough it.

Not really.

I played alot with 3 Shield skill.Round cavalry shield.

Bolts only fly through it on close range and only if they are shot from an Arbalest(And sometimes from an heavy crossbow if you are unlucky).

It  will, however, break relatively fast.

BUT I think its still pretty good for a STR shielder.

Why?Simple, you just need to block few hits because once you hit, you will kill due to high PS.
Maybe it woud be better for me to find out where you life and kill you when you are satch a Soziopath. You have enough now.
"I don´t believe in anything, I´m just here for the violence."