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Possible rule change: What should count as one ranged slot on the question with Throwing?

One stack of throwing weapons
67 (40.1%)
Two stacks of throwing weapons
21 (12.6%)
One person using throwing weapons
63 (37.7%)
Undecided
16 (9.6%)

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Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
« Reply #75 on: December 13, 2011, 02:19:55 pm »
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If one ranged slot is one stack of throwing then an archer should have only one pack of arrows and a xbow man should have only one pack of bolts, not fair for the ranged guy to have only one pack of throwing when an archer has like three pack of arrows or an xbow man has two packs of bolts...

...imo.

The thing is, even if you do that, hybrid archers/xbows will be able to use 2slot ranged weapons with one ammo and a melee backup, or 1slot ranged weapons with one ammo and a 2slot backup. As Ramses pointed out, they're likely to do this anyway because they probably won't even shoot out a full stack. However, unless a thrower uses a 3slot weapon (extremely unlikely) or a 2slot shield with a one-hander (also unlikely), he'll be forced to waste a slot that would normally be used for more throwing weapons. It's a huge handicap, and the no-scavenge rule turns it into a much bigger one.
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Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
« Reply #76 on: December 13, 2011, 02:20:02 pm »
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Forgive him, oh lord, because he knows not what he's saying - he didn't really take part in any Fallen Tournaments so far and even if he did he was too stoned to remember how it was.

ajde popusi ga malo, sudjeloval sam vec u 2 ili 3 turnira i ovo kaj sam napisal ima smisla, zakaj me ismijavas, trebal bi bit podrska pederu Gnjusavi...  :twisted:

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Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
« Reply #77 on: December 13, 2011, 02:22:16 pm »
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I'm honored to introduce you RuConquista team. We will participate in Lamellar Armor. Hope that will be a good fight.

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Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
« Reply #78 on: December 13, 2011, 02:23:15 pm »
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ajde popusi ga malo, sudjeloval sam vec u 2 ili 3 turnira i ovo kaj sam napisal ima smisla, zakaj me ismijavas, trebal bi bit podrska pederu Gnjusavi...  :wink:

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Jeboga pas pa kakve veze imaju njihovi stackovi municije kad ionak ne ispucaju ni pola, ne bu tu puno pucanja bilo, archeri i crossbowmeni su poprilično beskorisni u toj maloj areni, to smo iz prve ruke isprobali zadnji put.  Bolje da uzme 3 stacka strijela nego neko bolje oruzje, strijele ne bu ispuco a oruzje ce bome stic izvadit i odpilit ti glavu s njim. :wink:

Što se ismijavanja tiče - nije da sam puno lagao.  :twisted:
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Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
« Reply #79 on: December 13, 2011, 02:23:57 pm »
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Dislike that map, there have been others used in the past that were much better. I'm not sure if I see that right but the melee area in the GK map is ridiculously small. Didn't expect anything else from GK  :P.

Although I voted one throwing person counts as 1, Ramses arguments made me doubt my vote. What I remember from these tournaments is that ranged doesn't have all that much time to skirmish. So a thrower, throwing 2 stacks of throwing weapons will probably deal as much damage as a crossbowman or an archer, while probably doing a lot better in melee.

I'm honored to introduce you RuConquista team. We will participate in Lamellar Armor. Hope that will be a good fight.
Tourney is full man. You are the 18th singup in a tournament with 14 spots.

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Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
« Reply #80 on: December 13, 2011, 02:27:36 pm »
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Still waiting for the final word for Ramses on whether or not he can work in the extra clans.

As for the throwing, don't forget that skill investments in that also hugely decrease your melee effectiveness. A hybrid archer might be just as good in melee as a thrower.

For the record, I'm not lobbying on behalf of my clan or anything, I don't think we're likely to have any throwers on our squad either way. I just don't like the rule.
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Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
« Reply #81 on: December 13, 2011, 02:29:51 pm »
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Što se ismijavanja tiče - nije da sam puno lagao.  :twisted:

Bad Gnjus, bad...  :twisted:
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Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
« Reply #82 on: December 13, 2011, 02:34:40 pm »
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I'm honored to introduce you RuConquista team. We will participate in Lamellar Armor. Hope that will be a good fight.

I'll try my best to make the tourney 18 teams now  :?

Forgive him, oh lord, because he knows not what he's saying - he didn't really take part in any Fallen Tournaments so far and even if he did he was too stoned to remember how it was.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40DXHk2RUrk

This was one of the most archer and xbow heavy matches in that tourney (Number 5), and none of the archers or xbowmen used up all their bolts.

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Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
« Reply #83 on: December 13, 2011, 02:37:45 pm »
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Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
« Reply #84 on: December 13, 2011, 02:45:32 pm »
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Just dont allow ranged in the tournament then and thats it...

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Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
« Reply #85 on: December 13, 2011, 02:50:53 pm »
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imb4 100 + pierce dmg archers.

Seriously, just disallow ranged looms at least.
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Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
« Reply #86 on: December 13, 2011, 02:54:12 pm »
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Seriously, just disallow ranged looms at least.

Would be quite hard to control that.

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Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
« Reply #87 on: December 13, 2011, 02:54:39 pm »
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Any chances on retrieving this map? That one was good.

Beau made it, so I hope to get it back.

I'll not disallow ranged and I'll not disallow ranged looms for this tourney - that's final.

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Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
« Reply #88 on: December 13, 2011, 03:00:47 pm »
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40DXHk2RUrk

This was one of the most archer and xbow heavy matches in that tourney (Number 5), and none of the archers or xbowmen used up all their bolts.

Also this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgX0E4yA2PI&feature=related   :twisted:
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Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
« Reply #89 on: December 13, 2011, 03:03:53 pm »
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Also this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgX0E4yA2PI&feature=related   :twisted:

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