ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER

[Thovex]

This would be grand.
Also if I remember correctly, the arena we fight in is pretty small isnt it? Should make it bigger, maybe 1.5 in size, to allow for some actual movement and not just head on clashes.

I prefer the map that fallen made themselves the arena that was also used in the 3x5 vs 3x5.

[Cicero]

This would be grand.
Also if I remember correctly, the arena we fight in is pretty small isnt it? Should make it bigger, maybe 1.5 in size, to allow for some actual movement and not just head on clashes.

actually making a bigger map will change the tournament to archer fest which i dont want exactly.The map that fallen used is really good for both infantry and archer manuevering

[okiN]

I'm gonna go ahead and ask for a clarification on something, because one thing in the rules strikes me as very silly:

5 - Maximum 2 ranged weapons / team (1 ranged weapon = 1 bow OR 1 xbow OR 1 stack of throwing weapons)

Surely you can't actually mean one stack of throwing weapons, but rather one person using throwing weapons.

[Harpag]

Would it be possible to make room for 3 more clans so that SoA, Wolves and Mercs can play? Would make the tournament more interesting.

+1 ...if possible from an organizational point of view...

[Fluffy_Muffin]

Surely you can't actually mean one stack of throwing weapons, but rather one person using throwing weapons.

They mean what is written down, in the previous tournaments the rule was 1 ranged counts as 2 stacks of throwing weps or something like that. So if you have 4 stacks of throwing you cant have any more ranged weapons. Now its even more strict i see: 2 stacks count as all of your range. It should be 2 stacks per ranged not 1 stack

[RamsesXXIIX]

Would it be possible to make room for 3 more clans so that SoA, Wolves and Mercs can play? Would make the tournament more interesting.

Ehmm... Not right now, but I'll see if i can figure out something. It sure would be great to have all of them in.

As to Okins question: Yes, one stack of throwing weapons count as one ranged. So it is possible to have both your ranged slots used on one guy with two stacks of throwing weapons.

Let me also remind you that:

3 - If a team uses more ranged weapons than allowed, the fight outcome won't matter, their opponent will receive a 8:0 win.

This is because of throwings much stronger nature in close melee. A crossbowman or archer can not get many shots of in a close melee,  and both are sacrificing a lot to be able to shoot anything at all. Throwers, on the other hand, can get a lot of very damaging hits in a much shorter timespace, and as such need to be further limited. Otherwise you might see a team with 4+ throwing lances, which is gamebreaking IMO.

However, if a clear majority thinks it is better to change the rules so that we change it to either 2 stacks of ranged weapons counts as one ranged weapon slot or one person using throwing counts as one ranged weapon slot, I'll change the rule on this.

Making a poll


As to map: I'm still unsure on what map to use, and I've not even been able to contact the server administrator O.O
However Chagan offered me to use their map, which seems like a likely candidate for now. The fighting would ofc be in the melee arena of the map. here's a picture: (Don't know how to resize, you'll have to live with this)

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[okiN]

I dunno, I just think it's nuts. Chances are it won't be an issue because a squad can get more mileage out of an archer anyway, but I really don't agree with your assessment. Imposing this kind of limit on their ammo is about the same as banning them altogether, especially when you've already forbidden scavenging. Nobody in their right mind is going to use throwing under these circumstances.

[Vibe]

Probably best to ban throwing completely 

[RamsesXXIIX]

Not In my opinion. Calling my rules nuts won't help you Okin, we just disagree and that's it.

Some teams have not used any ranged at all in some tournaments, still with great success. One possible way of using throwing is with a hybrid I'd say. But if you disagree on the effectiveness of throwers, just don't bring any. 

[okiN]

Up to you I guess, but I'm entitled to think it's nuts. Deal with it.

Also, on the GK map, it's kind of hard to make out the scale, but it looks to me like the melee arena is just a tiny square surrounded by a pit? It doesn't look like there's any room to maneuver at all, only thing to do is charge into a straight-up slugfest. Seems a bit boring, honestly the spawn area looks like a more attractive place to fight; a rectangle is definitely better than a square when you're supposed to have a team at both ends.

[Shpritza]

If one ranged slot is one stack of throwing then an archer should have only one pack of arrows and a xbow man should have only one pack of bolts, not fair for the ranged guy to have only one pack of throwing when an archer has like three pack of arrows or an xbow man has two packs of bolts...

...imo.

[Gnjus]

If one ranged slot is one stack of throwing then an archer should have only one pack of arrows and a xbow man should have only one pack of bolts...
..imo.

You're too stoned to be writing on forums, just sit back, roll another one and enjoy the silence..... 

[RamsesXXIIX]

I agree the melee arena looks small, but there one side of it you can't see and I need to test out the actual size of the map myself. We also need to make sure people won't lag on it (By it being too large).

It's just the only submission we're having so far. I'll try to contact Beau and see if has any of his old maps lying around. Otherwise I might need a mapmaker

If one ranged slot is one stack of throwing then an archer should have only one pack of arrows and a xbow man should have only one pack of bolts...
..imo.

Do you honestly expect any xbowman to use 12 bolts or any archer using 15 arrows?

[Shpritza]

Do you honestly expect any xbowman to use 12 bolts or any archer using 15 arrows?

...dont expect nothing from that ranged scum just saying, o and fuck u mr. Gnjus rolling a fatty as we speak...

[Gnjus]

Do you honestly expect any xbowman to use 12 bolts or any archer using 15 arrows?

Forgive him, oh lord, because he knows not what he's saying - he didn't really take part in any Fallen Tournaments so far and even if he did he was too stoned to remember how it was.