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Re: Attack on Emirin!
« Reply #105 on: December 12, 2011, 02:46:46 pm »
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It was definately a bug, and a very mysterious one. cmp and I tried to figure out the cause, but it should be impossible to happen, actually. We added some more debug messages and have to wait until it happens again.

The problem was that, for no apparent reason, the match ended after 8 minutes or something because the game thought it was 197 minutes already. This is, as far as we know, the first time this ever happened, and the system has been in place for a long time.

We will discuss how to reimburse one or both parties to create something that equals the status before.

It was definately no user error, and also no hack or something. If I'd have to guess, I'd say it's weird behaviour in the way warband handles time, but even that is unlikely.

This event has created too many new events

Compensation wil be hard, since mercs already took over a grey village with the equipemnt they got from DRZ. If DRZ would have fought that battle. mercs would be in no state to fight the greys.

This event created too many new events, wich were based on the bugs outcome. And Mercs took huge advantage out of it

« Last Edit: December 12, 2011, 02:49:06 pm by Jambi »
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Re: Attack on Emirin!
« Reply #106 on: December 12, 2011, 02:50:07 pm »
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So it was a bug? No hacks, no grand conspiracy? No alien master-race stuff?

How surprising.

Dont believe everything they tell you :D

Even Devs have been proven wrong in the past :D

+ listen to what chadz says, they are still investigating what happend
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Re: Attack on Emirin!
« Reply #107 on: December 12, 2011, 02:50:10 pm »
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yes it said battle should have been 128 minutes, but really templars had smaller battle and also had 2 hrs limit... also timer disapears and apears again one or 2 times, but that happens anyway during other battles too i think

could someone/something replace timer during the game? As you said its not possible to happen on its own.

Will there be something chaged with 2hr limit?
Attacking with smaller armies doesn't work very well, since winner gets loot from your original equip rather then whats left after the battle.
In one of our small field battles we loted few bits of equipment even though enemy didn't have anything at the end of the battle.
A the moment its impossible to fight big battles.

Edit: If everything is returned to both parties and attack recreated, and better with 197 mins for battle, could u please participate chadz on either side? to see if this mysterious bug would happen again? maybe will be easier to track.
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Re: Attack on Emirin!
« Reply #108 on: December 12, 2011, 03:18:19 pm »
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Could everyone put their personal grudges to the side and concentrate on fixing the bug please? Could you please step aside if you are no help at all? If you have information do it, if you got nothing be gone with your conspiracy theories.

Is there anything Merc can do the compensate Drz losses? thats what I wanna know.

And Ginger, told you before. Shut the hell up man, seriously.

There is something Mercs can do. Give DRZ back there equipment, Give back whatever the Greys lost, when you attacked them using DRZ's equipment.

Reinact the same situation when DRZ attacked you. have a proper battle instead. But it think someone already proposed this, but Ginger refused.

Too bad so much happend already on Strat. A reroll would have been perfect.
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« Last Edit: December 12, 2011, 03:21:30 pm by Jambi »
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Re: Attack on Emirin!
« Reply #109 on: December 12, 2011, 03:28:34 pm »
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2. Drz and allies talk about a bug, most likely its one in there clans own fault. (chadz reply on this thread saying its likely commander of DRZ retreating)
It was definately no user error, and also no hack or something. If I'd have to guess, I'd say it's weird behaviour in the way warband handles time, but even that is unlikely.
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Re: Attack on Emirin!
« Reply #110 on: December 12, 2011, 03:30:28 pm »
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Jambi, stop being stupid.

We will discuss how to reimburse one or both parties to create something that equals the status before.
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Re: Attack on Emirin!
« Reply #111 on: December 12, 2011, 03:32:12 pm »
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Too bad so much happend already on Strat. A reroll would have been perfect.

Which then affects every other player in strat too.
The logic of war seems to be that if a belligerent can fight he will fight.

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Re: Attack on Emirin!
« Reply #112 on: December 12, 2011, 03:44:43 pm »
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Which then affects every other player in strat too.

Good! you understood what i said perfectly!

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« Last Edit: December 12, 2011, 03:46:45 pm by Jambi »
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Re: Attack on Emirin!
« Reply #113 on: December 12, 2011, 03:47:15 pm »
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... Give back whatever the Greys lost, when you attacked them using DRZ's equipment...
Thx Jambi.

We have no losses. There is no problem. Only 300 naked tickets in the village. We decided that defending the village, when the situation is not clarified, is pointless.
BTW. I am very pleased that the highest appellate authority did not disappoint us. Thank you.
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Re: Attack on Emirin!
« Reply #114 on: December 12, 2011, 03:49:25 pm »
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Compensation wil be hard, since mercs already took over a grey village with the equipemnt they got from DRZ. If DRZ would have fought that battle. mercs would be in no state to fight the greys.

This event created too many new events, wich were based on the bugs outcome. And Mercs took huge advantage out of it
Funny thing how you invent thing in your head and believe is as a truth. That fief was taken by lowest gear. No troops from Emerin was transfer no gear no gold.
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Re: Attack on Emirin!
« Reply #115 on: December 12, 2011, 03:56:41 pm »
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A re roll is unfair for all others then Drz. even to the Greys.

A fair thing is to give Drz just alittle back from equipment they would maybe not loose. as long as the 2 hours are there the end would be that we win. And from that we would have looted a lot of troops and gear.
I make chadz decide this tho, and i wasn't thinking of writing more in this thread, but the whining threads are over the top.

i say again, DRZ attacked and at the time they attacked the mechanics in the game was so that they could not win, except for taking the spawns. And we all know how hard that is.

Other important stuff should be if the time limit is there to stay (or maybe change it)
If scaling is a alternative

But actually in strategus there is more pressing matters i feel. Like how to get people signing up for AI.

After this bug with Drz i have NO sympathy with them. they got all there fiefs with 0 defense due to bugs, no one signing up.
AI buys crap 10000 straw hats in every battle but 20 nomad bows. this are more pressing matters then changing the 2 hour time limit.

Ai and the BIG alliance to stop is what i call game breaking issues.
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Re: Attack on Emirin!
« Reply #116 on: December 12, 2011, 04:04:26 pm »
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Isn't it possible to set back whole Strategus to back before the battle? Not the full wipe, just wipe of the last two days.
I mean, what have you got to lose? You know, you come from nothing, you're going back to nothing, what have you lost? Nothing!

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Re: Attack on Emirin!
« Reply #117 on: December 12, 2011, 04:05:41 pm »
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After this bug with Drz i have NO sympathy with them. they got all there fiefs with 0 defense due to bugs, no one signing up.
AI buys crap 10000 straw hats in every battle but 20 nomad bows. this are more pressing matters then changing the 2 hour time limit.

Ai and the BIG alliance to stop is what i call game breaking issues.
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Re: Attack on Emirin!
« Reply #118 on: December 12, 2011, 04:10:07 pm »
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Funny thing how you invent thing in your head and believe is as a truth. That fief was taken by lowest gear. No troops from Emerin was transfer no gear no gold.
Unsinkable pussy ... We have seen from where arrived Dave. I ask mates again, but this is probably next scam... it is possible there was no transfer, but I can't believe in your word-  never more. Sorry.
I prefer to ask another person, or check.
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Re: Attack on Emirin!
« Reply #119 on: December 12, 2011, 04:12:54 pm »
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gigner u so full of it, in all our village fights we had lots of ppl against us in all battled, do you want a report from each battle?
we caputred all villages within 2 weeks, and then at some point after that ppl lost interest in signing up on strat for defence...
we fought for every single village, and never we took all village flags, not in single battle... if no one would sign up against us we would take all flags in each battle

Edit: we only took your villages without defence, because u chose not to defend them
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