[POLL] About EU_1 Battle.Why its no fun anymore ? Or is it fun ?

[rufio]

well imo cavs fine, melee is fine, but ranged isnt: this is why

i see melee working together as they should, i see cav working together as they should, most of the time i see archers being damn solidsnake legolasses ssame for xbowers. and if it was like that always sure . but omg when archers decide to work together, man shit like that just puts fear into me, because when they decide to start teamplay  they fuckin rape everything to bits. also consider this, if u get hit once by an archer all the other archers have free hits, u die. dodging archery has become near impossible and i see myself at end of battles hugging a tree and softly trying to cry myself to sleep waiting for then end. also ranged dousnt glance/whiff, i dont see archers shooting in volley mode, why not because they are fuckin snipers!! and more then not dous an archery hit take more damage form me then a melee hit, and that that is the real retarded thing imo, archery in game ballance should never ever hit harder then melee, but it dous alot. and no dont come wel haha thats lvl difference, no just no.

now to fall into repeating, i say it might be the fault of terrain that archery is so op, since movement is just limited alot by terrain, thus archers who abuse this increas theyr effectiveness by atleast 100%, also i hate it that a hornbow mw or not, can 3/4 shot me in full milanese plate QQ wtf is that shit right there fuck that shit.

[Gomer]

[Dom.Miguel]

well imo cavs fine, melee is fine, but ranged isnt: this is why

i see melee working together as they should, i see cav working together as they should, most of the time i see archers being damn solidsnake legolasses ssame for xbowers. and if it was like that always sure . but omg when archers decide to work together, man shit like that just puts fear into me, because when they decide to start teamplay  they fuckin rape everything to bits. also consider this, if u get hit once by an archer all the other archers have free hits, u die. dodging archery has become near impossible and i see myself at end of battles hugging a tree and softly trying to cry myself to sleep waiting for then end. also ranged dousnt glance/whiff, i dont see archers shooting in volley mode, why not because they are fuckin snipers!! and more then not dous an archery hit take more damage form me then a melee hit, and that that is the real retarded thing imo, archery in game ballance should never ever hit harder then melee, but it dous alot. and no dont come wel haha thats lvl difference, no just no.

now to fall into repeating, i say it might be the fault of terrain that archery is so op, since movement is just limited alot by terrain, thus archers who abuse this increas theyr effectiveness by atleast 100%, also i hate it that a hornbow mw or not, can 3/4 shot me in full milanese plate QQ wtf is that shit right there fuck that shit.

You sound mad brah? jelly?

on topic:
The problem is not what is op or not IT'S THE FUCKING BALANCE. When you have like 80% of cav and ranged in one team no wonder eu 1 feels lame.

[Gomer]

Btw fuck you Melee play as an archer. It's not as easy as you think and if it is play as it. Half yall say it's boarin fuck off then and dont complain. Half the people that play cRpg SPEND THERE DAY BITCHING ABOUT THE GAME WHILE THEY PLAY IT FOR 20 OUTA 24 HOURS A DAY. GOMER RAGE RAWR

[Gomer]

You sound mad brah? jelly?

No Super HIGH... RAWR

[Vibe]

Problems is the amount of ranged AND ladders in battle. Gonna grind to 31 then it's bye bye EU1 for me.

[Gomer]

Problems is the amount of ranged AND ladders in battle. Gonna grind to 31 then it's bye bye EU1 for me.

Dude it's throwing stop your crying Ranged is fine your just dumb for walking into my arrow. What do you want? Us to do the amount of dmg a rock does? Cry some more?

[rufio]

im sorry dom, but what im saying about terrain is right, on flat maps i dont have such a prob with range, its on hilly maps with cliffsides and such that i get very very annoyed, and well most maps have lots of that shit going on

[Gomer]

im sorry dom, but what im saying about terrain is right, on flat maps i dont have such a prob with range, its on hilly maps with cliffsides and such that i get very very annoyed, and well most maps have lots of that shit going on

Every type of role has thier specilty maps. Large+ Flat=Cav Small+Flat=Melee Hilly=Archers Everything+Throwers City=Melee get my gist?

[Gomer]

Btw play Na1 it's way better were AMERICAN we have a clan called USA AMERICA (lljk) so yes it's way better . IDK if it's true but I see more admins on and better games there as well

[HarunYahya]

Btw play Na1 it's way better were AMERICAN we have a clan called USA AMERICA (lljk) so yes it's way better . IDK if it's true but I see more admins on and better games there as well

You guys are "special" . You play with "special" weapons with "special" builds on "special" servers.
We like and embrace you guys.
On EU side , the game is different we don't consider "blocking" as a bug in game , we use it as a feature and most of the players like that therefore we seek melee battle instead of ranged shit and spammization.
Keep playing with your "special" mates we like you guys really but DO NOT EVER COMMENT on a EU problem please .

[rufio]

i was thinking, and talked to some clan archers,  about some solutions : 1 is totally removing pierce damage from archery,  they said they wouldnt mind that much, 2 was make bodkins only usable on last 2 bows, and decreace drawspeed slightly, but make bodkins cheaper to use,3 make ironflesh 3 points instead of 2 points, 4. increase armor soak on pierce.  ah well just thoughts in the bigger picture, no major nerfing just finishing ballance touches.

[Paul]

I was always wondering why there was so much whine about archery and so few about crossbows. The answer probalby is that we prohibited archers from entering melee while crossbower mostly retained this ability. So what's left to archers is turn and run or roofhugging. There are probably a lot more "fuck melee" archer builds because of that than crossbow builds without melee ability.

[Vibe]

I was always wondering why there was so much whine about archery and so few about crossbows. The answer probalby is that we prohibited archers from entering melee while crossbower mostly retained this ability. So what's left to archers is turn and run or roofhugging. There are probably a lot more "fuck melee" archer builds because of that than crossbow builds without melee ability.

I'd be all for giving archers more melee power and less ranged power.

[HarunYahya]

i was thinking, and talked to some clan archers,  about some solutions : 1 is totally removing pierce damage from archery,  they said they wouldnt mind that much, 2 was make bodkins only usable on last 2 bows, and decreace drawspeed slightly, but make bodkins cheaper to use,3 make ironflesh 3 points instead of 2 points, 4. increase armor soak on pierce.  ah well just thoughts in the bigger picture, no major nerfing just finishing ballance touches.

I disagree .
Those may solve the extra effectivness of archer invasion on a server but it'll fuck archery big time individually.
I think archery damage is fine now.I am glad i die with 4 arrows to my chest because i aint wanna be god .Draw speed is slow enough i think.
I actually was about to post more but while i critisize your post i was also thinking what can be the alternative at the same time and i came up with an idea !

ADDITION OF FATIGUE !
Why not ? We have WSE , genius devs then why not ?

This will solve lots of problems including =
-7/24 spam
-Archers shooting like a turret
-7/24 Galloping horses at full speed
-Very long lasting duels
-Holding attack forever

-This may bring more teamwork
-This may give AGI builds the love they deserve with a "Stamina" skill maybe ?
-This may slow  gameplay down
-This thing should be done so properly cuz idk what will happen if both fighters run out of stamina ? Will they sit and have a beer together ?

Stamina consuming on melee should depend on weapons weight imo cuz : More weight on a weapon to swing needs more effort.
Stamina consume on ranged should depend on missile speed imo cuz : If a weapon throws a shit at faster speed , drawing it should be harder.

DISCUSS !?!