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Re: Does any other class have to "skip" a generation?
« Reply #30 on: November 30, 2011, 05:24:40 pm »
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Pikemen never dominating the scoreboard?  Dexxta, anyone?

And how often do you see an archer dominate and what are their names so I can congratulate them for their incredible skill.  Try playing an archer on native and then on cRPG to see how much skill an archer has to have to perform even moderately well with the longer draw time, lower missile speed and reduced damage here.

Don't get me wrong, I don't think pikes are overpowered or that archery needs to be like it is in native.  But I can't help but wonder if we are playing the same game.  :)

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Re: Does any other class have to "skip" a generation?
« Reply #31 on: November 30, 2011, 06:10:56 pm »
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Well, as usually perceptions differ. In my eyes pikemen are only supporters and nothing else. I don't know any class that is as much dependant on other players as pikemen are. Without teamplay a pikeman is worth nothing. On his own he can barely do anything. And on his own he is probably the most vulnerable class of all, with the least possible defense qualities.

Playing pikeman IS fun, and yes, it's a good supporter, but it's only a supporter. I don't say to buff him up to the level of cavalry or two handers, but at least the devs should stop nerfing this class from patch to patch, while constantly making bullshit considering the other classes, especially archery.

You are probably right, +2 dmg per loom level is too much, but buff the weapon otherwise, just to make up for the fact that it is the only class in the entire game where you can use only that one item. All other classes can go hybrid to a certain degree, pikeman can't. I think that's plain unfair.
Joker makes a very good point.
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Re: Does any other class have to "skip" a generation?
« Reply #32 on: November 30, 2011, 06:27:16 pm »
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Pikes can take a 1-slot polearm for close combat...
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Re: Does any other class have to "skip" a generation?
« Reply #33 on: November 30, 2011, 06:30:49 pm »
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Don't you get bonus for your loomed bow already?
Can't see why so much qq about bodkins. What do you want? One shot kill everyone in the leg?

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Re: Does any other class have to "skip" a generation?
« Reply #34 on: November 30, 2011, 06:34:25 pm »
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Now that the round steel buckler is 0 slot and 3 difficulty, pikemen can go hybrid with a shortened spear, military fork or a nice one hander.  Or they could get a nice shield and a 0 slot weapon.

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Re: Does any other class have to "skip" a generation?
« Reply #35 on: November 30, 2011, 06:36:54 pm »
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Yep, one of the few people willing to admit when they're wrong should totally never post again. Stellar post.
I see you are ignoring my request, let me explain:

1) this is not the game balance forum
2) arrows didn't get bonus damage before the latest patch either
3) you can loom bows (this one apparently got through your thick skull)
4) extra arrows are clearly not irrelevant (unless you abuse some kind of bugs that give you extra arrows)
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Re: Does any other class have to "skip" a generation?
« Reply #36 on: November 30, 2011, 08:13:31 pm »
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Just give me my extra point of speed back on my bastard sword +3 you bastards.
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Re: Does any other class have to "skip" a generation?
« Reply #37 on: November 30, 2011, 08:31:36 pm »
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I see you are ignoring my request, let me explain:

1) this is not the game balance forum
2) arrows didn't get bonus damage before the latest patch either
3) you can loom bows (this one apparently got through your thick skull)
4) extra arrows are clearly not irrelevant (unless you abuse some kind of bugs that give you extra arrows)


Allow me to clarify again since you didn't catch it the first time.

I was wrong.

There, now you can sleep soundly tonight  instead of continuing to beat a dead horse for your own smug sense of superiority.
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Re: Does any other class have to "skip" a generation?
« Reply #38 on: November 30, 2011, 09:47:24 pm »
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Re: Does any other class have to "skip" a generation?
« Reply #39 on: November 30, 2011, 09:50:12 pm »
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If looming doesn't seem worth it, don't retire.
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Re: Does any other class have to "skip" a generation?
« Reply #40 on: November 30, 2011, 10:04:10 pm »
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If looming doesn't seem worth it, don't retire.

about that, WAS worth to retire, now is not. but anyway the loom nerf was all across the board (armor, arrows) so there no reason to go mad. i had +14 armor bonus, now it's only +8. i did 6 generations just for the armor, but since all armors got rebalanced i'm fine with that.

i'll say it again. lowering heirloom armor bonus is an indirect ranged buff. So archers should be less mad imo.

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Re: Does any other class have to "skip" a generation?
« Reply #41 on: November 30, 2011, 10:11:43 pm »
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I'm glad you recognize my obvious crossbow lobbyistic tendencies.


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Re: Does any other class have to "skip" a generation?
« Reply #42 on: November 30, 2011, 10:22:45 pm »
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Fuck this shit. Switching back to 2h. I've had enough of this nerfing bullshit.
Since i'm playing archer every freakin patch i get nerfed. And now, i cant even use my loomed outfit because it got too heavy and the wpf-penalty starts to kick in.

At least i'm one of the dev-loved classes then.  8-)

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Re: Does any other class have to "skip" a generation?
« Reply #43 on: November 30, 2011, 10:37:22 pm »
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If they nerfed long dagger looms I'm about to skip 3 generations.
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Re: Does any other class have to "skip" a generation?
« Reply #44 on: November 30, 2011, 11:18:39 pm »
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I'm glad you recognize my superiority.

I recognize that you code the game and could pull stings to have me "coded out'" (banned) of this forum/game if you were feeling petty enough.
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