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WANNA REMOVE THE CRUSHTHROUGH?

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Voting closed: January 17, 2012, 10:31:45 pm

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Offline EggThumbSalad

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Remove Crushthrough
« on: November 28, 2011, 10:31:45 pm »
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The crushthrough on weapons is annoying me soooooo much. If you agree with me and want it gone, vote yes, if you don't vote no, simple enough.
« Last Edit: December 01, 2011, 02:16:23 am by Kalam »

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Re: Remove Crushthrough
« Reply #1 on: November 28, 2011, 10:37:55 pm »
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Re: Remove Crushthrough
« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2011, 10:51:26 pm »
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It's pretty balanced, few pure chrushthroughers. Just spam or run and wait for help.

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Re: Remove Crushthrough
« Reply #3 on: November 28, 2011, 10:51:56 pm »
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I die to good maulers, but they are generally good players too. Bad maulers are very easy to kill with either superb speed or superb range. It's a fun mechanic in my opinion since it makes some fights different than the others.

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Re: Remove Crushthrough
« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2011, 10:57:48 pm »
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Even as someone that was a shielder for multiple generations, I vote no.

Those mauls have serious limitations.  They're extremely slow, short and unbalanced.  Even the good maulers miss way more than they hit due to the length.  I think over time, most people have tried it at least once and given up and gone to a weapon that's more reliable in more situations.  They're really only dangerous when working in tandem with some other weapon (like a pike).  Solo, you vs mauler, just spam him and sidestep his overheads rather than trying to shield-block it.
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Re: Remove Crushthrough
« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2011, 10:58:33 pm »
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Re: Remove Crushthrough
« Reply #6 on: November 28, 2011, 11:02:54 pm »
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Is crushtrough damage same as unblocked hit?
If so reduce its damage to 70% of original maybe? ( if game engine allows it ofc  :rolleyes:)

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Re: Remove Crushthrough
« Reply #7 on: November 28, 2011, 11:05:53 pm »
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It's hilariously easy to beat someone who's using a maul. If anything the great maul could maybe use 3 slots, but other than that they are fine. If you find yourself constantly defeated by maul users, perhaps you need to switch tactics?
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Re: Remove Crushthrough
« Reply #8 on: November 28, 2011, 11:25:57 pm »
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Re: Remove Crushthrough
« Reply #9 on: November 29, 2011, 12:03:46 am »
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full plate + great maul = game broken.

yeah you can beat it but its seriously powerful and needs almost ZERO player skill.

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Re: Remove Crushthrough
« Reply #10 on: November 29, 2011, 12:07:54 am »
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full plate + great maul = game broken.

yeah you can beat it but its seriously powerful and needs almost ZERO player skill.

Yeah, I've seen a lot of maulers just soak the hit on their armor and continue with their overhead crush-through. It's pretty over powered.

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Re: Remove Crushthrough
« Reply #11 on: November 29, 2011, 12:09:31 am »
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Re: Remove Crushthrough
« Reply #12 on: November 29, 2011, 12:19:46 am »
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I usually enjoy fights against average maulers (which pretty much means "noobs" as most maul users have terrible overall skill), no matter my class. This mechanic requires a completely different approach to the combat, and I like this variety and need for mental adaptation. You can't always repeat the same combat pattern, because it's usually vulnerable against mauls. Whereas very simple things like careful spamming,  intelligent footwork or luring the mauler into attacking first work wonders. Mauls enabling very average players to score some kills doesn't bother me. I do care more about fun than skill (yet I do care about both).

One thing though. In the hands of good, cool-tempered blockers with 18/21 builds, the 2h maul can be a real problem as you can't simply spam and footwork won't work either. So you have to be extremely fast and concentrated to react accordingly to the mauler attacks (attack if overhead, block otherwise...).

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Re: Remove Crushthrough
« Reply #13 on: November 29, 2011, 12:33:41 am »
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One thing though. In the hands of good, cool-tempered blockers with 18/21 builds, the 2h maul can be a real problem as you can't simply spam and footwork won't work either. So you have to be extremely fast and concentrated to react accordingly to the mauler attacks (attack if overhead, block otherwise...).

Good thing the 2h maul has a difficulty of 20, then (or at least it says so on the website).

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Re: Remove Crushthrough
« Reply #14 on: November 29, 2011, 12:41:02 am »
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I think it has it's place in the game.  A good tactic to use against them is to swing faster or more often then them.  If they have their crushing weapon raised above their head there's nothing you can do but avoid it, hit them first, or chamber their swing (assuming you can chamber it).  It's not unbalanced, both cavalry and ranged can counter them very easily if they are alone (or someone with a faster weapon).

I really find the "let's nerf this next" arguments to be ridiculous.  Play the game, learn how to counter different classes and most importantly, use your teammates (and other teammates classes) to your team's advantage.

So many builds can counter so many other builds the list is basically endless depending on the scenario.
« Last Edit: November 29, 2011, 12:42:51 am by CrazyCracka420 »
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