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Banner balance
« on: November 28, 2011, 05:45:29 pm »
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• I suggest limiting the balance to a maximum of same color on same team, ie. 5 or 10 ppl.


I would loooove to understand the reason why clans are allowed to join the server with 15-20 people, getting on the same team thus using the casual non-clan ppl to farm XP for their members. It happens on a huge scale. It is organised XP-farm. I wouldnt be surprised if most clans on puplic servers even organise XP-farm days where the entire clan join the same server to boost their clan members XP wise. 

In any other multiplayer FPS/TPS game its called ghosting and WTJ, and in cRPG its exploit.

I totally understand that you as devs want to support and encourage teamplay and socializing, but fact is that the banner balance is abused on a major scale. 15 people on the same TS/Vent can organise and plan their attacks. They have a huge advantage comparred to the rest. That is completely unfair to the rest of us who want to get a fair and equal match.

And to you clan-people: Far most of you have your own server. Go use it if you want to clan-play and stop exploiting the pulic servers. Yes, i call it an exploit. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exploit_(online_gaming)

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Re: Banner balance
« Reply #1 on: November 28, 2011, 05:49:01 pm »
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Yes, im fully aware that many of the admins are doing this in their own clans and i also understand how hard this will be to change due to this fact.

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Re: Banner balance
« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2011, 06:32:30 pm »
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banner balance is INTENDED, hence not an exploit.  If you dont like it, change your banner to theirs and water their pool down and make it more likely some of theirs will be on enemy team.  Pugs crying about organized team play is about the most retarded thing in internet gaming.

Instead of crying about it, you should be +1'ing the suggestions of fixing the system by putting different large groups of banners AGAINST each other instead of typically lumping them together.

Clan A: 10 players
Clan B: 5 players
Clan C: 7 players

Right now banner balance seems to do A+B or A+C instead of A v B+C

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Re: Banner balance
« Reply #3 on: November 28, 2011, 07:54:27 pm »
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So you agree with me, current state is redicilous.

Oh and right back at ya, retard.

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Re: Banner balance
« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2011, 09:42:17 pm »
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Banner balance was intended by the creator. If a whole clan decides to join and have a game and this is what is happening why doesn't the admin just turn it off

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Re: Banner balance
« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2011, 09:57:58 pm »
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Just join a clan (not Fallen though plz). Problem solved.
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Re: Banner balance
« Reply #6 on: November 28, 2011, 11:05:49 pm »
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I never saw banner balance as a problem except sometimes on siege by HRE and Greys ... but if they were both online it was pretty balanced.
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Re: Banner balance
« Reply #7 on: November 28, 2011, 11:31:52 pm »
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I never saw banner balance as a problem except sometimes on siege by HRE and Greys ... but if they were both online it was pretty balanced.
Except when banner balance puts them both in the same team. Real balanced then.

Banner balance would not be a problem, if clanless people were not comprised of 80% "I GO STRAIGHT AND SWING AT ANYTHING THAT COMES MY WAY" kind of tactical geniuses. Seriously, usually the maps have a few well known points of interest, but it's never possible to get the randoms to focus on those. All they understand is "CHARGE" and "CAMP THE FLAG".

The only way i've found to deal with this fact is to think of non-clan teammates as AI bots. Without this trick I would have lost my sanity LONG ago.
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Re: Banner balance
« Reply #8 on: November 29, 2011, 12:52:09 am »
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remove it so its easier to clanstack

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Re: Banner balance
« Reply #9 on: November 29, 2011, 08:45:15 am »
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The only way i've found to deal with this fact is to think of non-clan teammates as AI bots. Without this trick I would have lost my sanity LONG ago.

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Re: Banner balance
« Reply #10 on: November 29, 2011, 09:03:57 am »
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There's public servers without banner balance just FYI

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Re: Banner balance
« Reply #11 on: November 29, 2011, 02:10:04 pm »
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There's public servers without banner balance just FYI

awesome... which ones?

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Re: Banner balance
« Reply #12 on: November 29, 2011, 02:10:54 pm »
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EU4 for example

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Re: Banner balance
« Reply #13 on: November 29, 2011, 02:13:44 pm »
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ok ty... any way of telling which servers use balance? maybe a list somewhere?

(yes i know im a noob ive played for couple months)

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Re: Banner balance
« Reply #14 on: November 29, 2011, 02:16:40 pm »
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Don't know if there's a list really, I know EU4 is not banner balanced and I believe one of the official siege servers too (EU5/6?).