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My balance suggestion
« on: November 27, 2011, 03:41:19 am »
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Here my idea of balance

2Hander
All weapons that has around 120+ length
-increase damage 2-8+ more
-decrease speed 2-3
-Highland Claymore-decrease 1-2 speed -add damage 1-5
All weapon shorter[expect mauls and knockdown and axe/Bardiche] than 110 with below speed 95
-increase 1-3 speed
-decrease damage 2-3
-increase pierce damage 1-5
Idea of 2 handed is that if it's too big then you would have hard time swinging which affect your speed but has higher damage. Short 2h is fast and effective but low damage.
Polearm

-thrust animation seem bit too fast and need to be slow down
-pike speed need to be decrease 3-5
-all war axe dmg 3-7 increase, speed decrease 2, add "unbalance", add more difficulty
-Double Sided Lance length should be 140+
Cavalries
-War house speed  1 or 2 speed decrease
-all light horse increase 1 or 2 speed
Thrower
-1 or 2 more ammo for all weapon expect lance
Archer
-IDK, I think it's balance
Crossbow
IDK, I think it's balance
Shield/One hand
-IDK, I think it's balance
« Last Edit: November 27, 2011, 11:52:04 am by CpTKiL »

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Re: My balance suggestion
« Reply #1 on: November 27, 2011, 07:57:03 am »
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No.

Let me just repeat myself, to make my point more clearly. No.

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Re: My balance suggestion
« Reply #2 on: November 27, 2011, 11:01:41 am »
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All I heard is no with no explanation and calling other people a troll. Nice troll btw :wink:

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Re: My balance suggestion
« Reply #3 on: November 27, 2011, 11:22:48 am »
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Well most of it seems reasonable.

You just need to smooth things or you'll create threshold effects. For example, compare the highland claymore and the sword of war. If the changes you state take effect, the relative balance between them will not be kept at all. The claymore (117 reach) will be over buffed, and the SoW (121 reach) will be over nerfed.

Furthermore, I don't think giving throwers more ammo is a good idea. Not many people play that class, but even with limited skill it's already very effective. At least fix the ammo-resupplying-when-taking-a-weapon-on-the-ground bug first.

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Re: My balance suggestion
« Reply #4 on: November 27, 2011, 11:36:40 am »
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Archery not balanced...

All scores from game, and ratios from best players. (After last patch)

Cav ratio : 40-0 , 45-2, 52-1

Two hand ratio : 30-0, 32-3, 41-1

Shield ratio : 24-0, 24-5, 32-2

Archer ratio : 10-6, 15-7, 19-6

Horse archer ratio : 7-2, 10-6, 13-0

I collect  build - ratio some times, best balance method is use this ratio.

Archery not funny, its useless build.

Edit : Ratio : 1) Average 2) Good 3) Best
« Last Edit: November 27, 2011, 11:42:57 am by OttomanSniper »
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Re: My balance suggestion
« Reply #5 on: November 27, 2011, 11:38:30 am »
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Re: My balance suggestion
« Reply #6 on: November 27, 2011, 11:44:55 am »
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Archer is not suppose to be killing class but support class. I notice too many archer have very high AGI. Maybe archers need more power draw skill to kill people with in 1-2 hits.

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Re: My balance suggestion
« Reply #7 on: November 27, 2011, 12:01:34 pm »
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Archer is not suppose to be killing class but support class. I notice too many archer have very high AGI. Maybe archers need more power draw skill to kill people with in 1-2 hits.

It's my build and items : (24 STR - 15 AGI)

8PD, +3 Horn Bow, +3 Bodkin Arrow, 150 wpf archery. I can kill heraldic transitional armor with 7 arrow (but they can kill me only 1 swing). I have only 17 x 2 arrow. I can kill low armor with 2 or 3 hit but all use strong armors. Tincans can run fast than me and tincans can able to walk quietly (wtf?) where is the noise of tin? Its kill laws of physics. SNEAK ATTACK TINCAN :P

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Re: My balance suggestion
« Reply #8 on: November 27, 2011, 12:06:32 pm »
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It's my build and items : (24 STR - 15 AGI)

8PD, +3 Horn Bow, +3 Bodkin Arrow, 150 wpf archery. I can kill heraldic transitional armor with 7 arrow (but they can kill me only 1 swing). I have only 17 x 2 arrow. I can kill low armor with 2 or 3 hit but all use strong armors. Tincans can run fast than me and tincans can able to walk quietly (wtf?) where is the noise of tin? Its kill laws of physics. SNEAK ATTACK TINCAN :P

Im not bad archer but not best, my ratio : Kills2343, Deaths2565 Admins can check this.

that when crossbows guy come into play they are also supporting class they kill tincans :) but I guess archer is unbalance maybe make some suggestion

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Re: My balance suggestion
« Reply #9 on: November 27, 2011, 12:17:13 pm »
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-thrust animation seem bit too fast and need to be slow down
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Re: My balance suggestion
« Reply #10 on: November 27, 2011, 01:22:53 pm »
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8PD, +3 Horn Bow, +3 Bodkin Arrow, 150 wpf archery. I can kill heraldic transitional armor with 7 arrow...

Bullshit. I take 1 bodkin arrow in fully loomed milanese plate set (83 body armor) and lose 30-40% health. Did you test against team mates maybe?
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Re: My balance suggestion
« Reply #11 on: November 27, 2011, 02:53:27 pm »
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Re: My balance suggestion
« Reply #12 on: November 27, 2011, 02:55:56 pm »
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Two hand ratio : 30-0

I'm not sure that's possible. You'll have to attach some screenshot otherwise I don't believe in it. 30-1 or 30-2 okay but 30-0 for twohander...

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Re: My balance suggestion
« Reply #13 on: November 27, 2011, 03:18:52 pm »
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Why wouldn't it be possible?
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Re: My balance suggestion
« Reply #14 on: November 27, 2011, 03:24:11 pm »
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Never saw anyone with a bunch of kills (playing whole map up to 9 rounds) and clean sheet.