Crpg stronghold

[Corrado_Decimo]

Yeah CTF would be awsome but what i would like to see is a king of the hill type of game where you respawn constantly to fight for a house or a castle or a hill

also known as siege.

anyway yes... CTF was really funny. super-fast pace, no long waiting respawn time = reckless charges (well the campers will still spawncamp on a random roof with their arbalest/longbow but who cares).

also TDM would be super. with xp multiplicator could be: if the winning team have 20 points gap from the losing team, set multi to x2, with 30 points set it to x3, 40 for the x4 and 50 for the x5.

[Pigeonteeth]

Don't think I've ever tried these, they sound very fun though!

[chadz]

The problem with stronghold is, sadly, that it might not be possible. The problem is that eventually it starts lagging like a bitch. For some reason the dynamically spawned objects seem to perform worse than those placed with a map editor. Another problem is that warband can't really remove scene props - once spawned, they can be hidden, but never deleted, thus hurting the framerate even more. Maybe some kind of limit would help, like, 50 objects per team max, but I never got around to testing that.

The other problem is that the gameplay is so raw, without having a dozen admins per game, I foresee lots of grieving.

Not saying it's dead, just that it needs serious rethinking.

[Belmont]

The problem with stronghold is, sadly, that it might not be possible. The problem is that eventually it starts lagging like a bitch. For some reason the dynamically spawned objects seem to perform worse than those placed with a map editor. Another problem is that warband can't really remove scene props - once spawned, they can be hidden, but never deleted, thus hurting the framerate even more. Maybe some kind of limit would help, like, 50 objects per team max, but I never got around to testing that.

The other problem is that the gameplay is so raw, without having a dozen admins per game, I foresee lots of grieving.

Not saying it's dead, just that it needs serious rethinking.

On a completely unrelated note, are there any news regarding CTF? I was really looking forward to it several patches ago but sadly it was not working as intended and it was disabled soon after. Would be a nice change of pace from Battle as there is an objective to capture (could even create a "Battle CTF" mode where all players only have one life but that's probably too similar to Search & Destroy).

[chadz]

Could be that it's working. It was 'disabled' ages ago because there was a mass XP bug, however, that one got fixed in stronghold developement. I'll try and do some tests.

[Belmont]

Could be that it's working. It was 'disabled' ages ago because there was a mass XP bug, however, that one got fixed in stronghold developement. I'll try and do some tests.

Great news! If it is indeed working we will set up the Byzantium server as a CTF server.

[Jarlek]

The problem with stronghold is, sadly, that it might not be possible. The problem is that eventually it starts lagging like a bitch. For some reason the dynamically spawned objects seem to perform worse than those placed with a map editor. Another problem is that warband can't really remove scene props - once spawned, they can be hidden, but never deleted, thus hurting the framerate even more. Maybe some kind of limit would help, like, 50 objects per team max, but I never got around to testing that.

The other problem is that the gameplay is so raw, without having a dozen admins per game, I foresee lots of grieving.

Not saying it's dead, just that it needs serious rethinking.

Some serious thinking about stronghold? Well, I loved that gamemode so much so I'll try to figure something out. At least regarding the gameplay. How to make it fun without making it griefable. I remember the damn idiots who kept destroying my walls/buildings :/ Where would you want us to post our thoughts? Suggestion section?

[chadz]

Sure, feel free to post there.

[Warcat]

Stronghold was fun, hope things can eventually get figured out with it.

[Thomek]

I think stronghold was a great idea, but it should perhaps be implemented much much simpler..

A much smaller map, resources with placed defensive structures, and the castles should be pre-determined.

If it works then, one could always expand on it..

chadzius, like I said before, your ideas are great, but like other Austrians, you sometimes think too big.

[Tomas_of_Miles]

For some reason the dynamically spawned objects seem to perform worse than those placed with a map editor. Another problem is that warband can't really remove scene props - once spawned, they can be hidden, but never deleted, thus hurting the framerate even more.

So does this mean that construction sites et al DO noticeably lag servers? 

[Teeth]

I think stronghold was a great idea, but it should perhaps be implemented much much simpler..

A much smaller map, resources with placed defensive structures, and the castles should be pre-determined.

If it works then, one could always expand on it..

chadzius, like I said before, your ideas are great, but like other Austrians, you sometimes think too big.

I see what you did there!

Good point, start small and expand on what works.

[Corrado_Decimo]

So does this mean that construction sites et al DO noticeably lag servers? 

i think not. because for instance in a entire 4-5 rounds siege map, you may spawn something like 20 ladders and 10-15 CS when the game is really intense.

besides that, if the "lag" chadz say it's only related to the server resources, (for instance when the server suddently performs bad and you get triple-quad text when chatting) maybe siege servers needs a fixed time auto-reboot feature (example, EU_2 automatically reboots at 7:00 AM every day)