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Re: Being a peasant is dicks.
« Reply #15 on: November 20, 2011, 08:39:19 pm »
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'The mind is a shield'


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Re: Being a peasant is dicks.
« Reply #16 on: November 21, 2011, 02:14:42 pm »
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'The mind is a shield'


'I've yet to see a man out smart a bullet'

but but Bulletproofmonk and Matrix and ... -_-
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Re: Being a peasant is dicks.
« Reply #17 on: November 21, 2011, 04:37:10 pm »
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'The mind is a shield'


'I've yet to see a man out smart a bullet'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNZWEoGdEgY  8-)
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Re: Being a peasant is dicks.
« Reply #18 on: November 22, 2011, 09:51:55 pm »
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Expected max distance from the main choke point = (agi/str)² * 20 meters.

 :lol:

One or the corollaries is that when you are 36/3, you ARE the choke point (0.13 meters)

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Re: Being a peasant is dicks.
« Reply #19 on: November 23, 2011, 01:40:29 am »
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Re: Being a peasant is dicks.
« Reply #20 on: November 23, 2011, 01:58:26 am »
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A cornered peasant is one of the most dangerous forces in mother nature.

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Re: Being a peasant is dicks.
« Reply #21 on: November 23, 2011, 11:08:22 pm »
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Expected max distance from the main choke point = (agi/str)² * 20 meters.

 :lol:

One or the corollaries is that when you are 36/3, you ARE the choke point (0.13 meters)

lol I'm not a 36/3 build yo 
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Re: Being a peasant is dicks.
« Reply #22 on: November 23, 2011, 11:58:49 pm »
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come on Dex... GET GOOD, SON! No, Just kidding. Honestly, always having anywhere from 3 to 15 more agility than str, and just playing in general, I've come to realize that unless I've got a long spear or something similar, with which I can do combat while being out of combat (long pole arm or a ranged weapon), my team is my biggest enemy. If Agi builds are good at anything, it's avoiding the enemy. Translates to: Stay the hell away from your team.

That, and be a kill stealing bastard. Sprint in, overhead, dodge out, move on.

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Re: Being a peasant is dicks.
« Reply #23 on: November 24, 2011, 12:06:57 am »
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come on Dex... GET GOOD, SON! No, Just kidding. Honestly, always having anywhere from 3 to 15 more agility than str, and just playing in general, I've come to realize that unless I've got a long spear or something similar, with which I can do combat while being out of combat (long pole arm or a ranged weapon), my team is my biggest enemy. If Agi builds are good at anything, it's avoiding the enemy. Translates to: Stay the hell away from your team.

That, and be a kill stealing bastard. Sprint in, overhead, dodge out, move on.

I stay away from my team all the time.

Somehow they find all the fights I get into, then proceed to bash me over the back of my head.

The reason I started using the pike was because I used it as a support weapon for my boys, then I found out I could fight without actually being in the mess of bodies. But I'm trying to keep costs down because I want to give Rhuell his blood money back.

So I just want to learn to play like a regular fighter (plus I have a lot more agi than people think I do) .
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Re: Being a peasant is dicks.
« Reply #24 on: November 24, 2011, 12:13:36 am »
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Get a Boar spear or spear, poke Enemies in their back while they are fighting single comrades, profit.


Dunno bout NA, but in EU you can mostly avoid big fights and go for the single duels or the 1vs2 things to help your buddy out.
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Re: Being a peasant is dicks.
« Reply #25 on: November 24, 2011, 12:19:00 am »
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as i spent most of my time as a 12-24 shielder (with a few 9-27 and 12-27 and 15-24 stints) usually wearing a blue gambeson... i think i can safely say i know exactly what you are talking about, doubly so as i generally shouldnt have to point my shield at my teamates in order to avoid horrible death. I also feel extra qualified as when the ATS servers were up and keeping track of stats, i was the most TKd player on the battle server for a long time.

anyways, i have found a tried and true 85% effective method to avoid dying to teamates. i say 85% because there are always huey newton who are going to try and help you defeat the archer who has no melee wep that you are in the process of murder, as well as the unicorn archers who will fire madly at the opponent you are stabbing to death... at anyrate the secret to avoiding death to teamates is to avoid teamates. i like to run off on my own and fight 5 or so enemies at a time,this way i am almost garunteed to die to enemies instead of teamates, also my enemies are likely to hurt each other. so yeah, thats the secret... rambo off on your own and stay the hell away from teamates... if you find yourself fighting 2v1 (as one of the 2) against a competent player, and you dont have a shield to hide behind, then i recommend running away in terror before your teamate kills you.

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Re: Being a peasant is dicks.
« Reply #26 on: November 24, 2011, 01:51:01 am »
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lol I'm not a 36/3 build yo

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Re: Being a peasant is dicks.
« Reply #27 on: November 25, 2011, 08:24:05 pm »
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In cloth armor, your options are pretty much...

work with your clan mates, who know how to work with you, or...
ninja


That's pretty much it. Engaging in full melees with the random cRPG teams is asking to be backstabbed to death by your team mate.

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Re: Being a peasant is dicks.
« Reply #28 on: November 26, 2011, 02:02:25 am »
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Ideally, you develop an attitude of forgiveness equal to that of Gandhijesus... Actually, I'm pretty sure that was what I did. I don't remember ever trying to avoid getting team killed.
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Re: Being a peasant is dicks.
« Reply #29 on: November 26, 2011, 12:36:57 pm »
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flank, run away if you're being overwhelmed by their numbers. if you get in one of the more spread out melees where you can survive, switch targets a lot and support your buddies when an enemy turns his back or readies an attack too early. you can get into a melee but you have to have a really good feel for when people are actually paying attention and noticing you, and you have to position yourself well too. play dirty, pretend to be afk or turn your back if some cav dude isn't stupid enough to go one on one with an agi build greatsword user, pretend not to notice people coming up behind you, set up ambushes around corners and so on. stay the fuck away from heavy cav, if some plate armor asshole on top of a plated charger is coming at you there really isn't much you can do once he realizes his bumps take off half of your health.

don't think about this shit when you're actually playing, you really need to just get a feel for what you can do and when you should do it. i'm probably forgetting some shit, but it's honestly mostly just learning from experience imo

as for the teamhitting stuff specifically, you just have to be really careful about how you engage. i honestly hardly ever find myself getting teamhit by friendly melee anymore. archers, throwers, and cav are a different story but i think everyone has that problem
« Last Edit: November 26, 2011, 12:41:24 pm by JohnAdams »